The Post-Burn Galaxy thread or "Post-Apocalypse or Slightly Used?"

[Fateor]

I'll have to rewatch as I missed that specific line - could argue they mean "remaining Klingon space" if really determined to reconcile the two but fair point

I mean... There's a lot of problems with that line in general...

Like... Did they just forget terraforming is a thing?

 

[Weyoun 251]

I mean... There's a lot of problems with that line in general...

Like... Did they just forget terraforming is a thing?

Could be - in the way modern earth is pushing back against destroying grassland/forest for urbanisation/industry for environmental reasons - that in the Trek universe they have deemed terraforming to be a practice that should not be carried out

 

[CT_Phipps]

I mean... There's a lot of problems with that line in general...

Like... Did they just forget terraforming is a thing?

Terraforming may not be an option when the entire galaxy is on fire.

But yes, I have no trouble believing all Klingon worlds were rendered uninhabitable...if the premise of the episode is finding a new homeworld.

If you had other worlds, you wouldn't need one.

No, the Klingons were Quarianed or BSGed.

 

[Fateor]

Terraforming may not be an option when the entire galaxy is on fire.

They live in a universe where Terraforming an entire planet only requires a toddler sized device.

 

[CT_Phipps]

They live in a universe where Terraforming an entire planet only requires a toddler sized device.

Yeah but Star Trek functions on the premise of, "We can do this thing in this episode that will never ever show up again and not solve the problem in the next episode. TNG's terraforming was a multi-year process that involved lots and lots of machines rather than the Genesis device that they at least invented a thing that made it unstable."

Anyway, the Klingons were members of the Federation in Daniels times so "every Klingon world was rendered uninhabitable" means that the Federation lost a world.

 

[Fateor]

Yeah but Star Trek functions on the premise of, "We can do this thing in this episode that will never ever show up again and not solve the problem in the next episode. TNG's terraforming was a multi-year process that involved lots and lots of machines rather than the Genesis device that they at least invented a thing that made it unstable."

Anyway, the Klingons were members of the Federation in Daniels times so "every Klingon world was rendered uninhabitable" means that the Federation lost a world.

Lower Decks had Genesis perfected and mass produced for use in Terraforming to the point there were Ferengi knockoff's.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah but Star Trek functions on the premise of, "We can do this thing in this episode that will never ever show up again and not solve the problem in the next episode. TNG's terraforming was a multi-year process that involved lots and lots of machines rather than the Genesis device that they at least invented a thing that made it unstable."

Anyway, the Klingons were members of the Federation in Daniels times so "every Klingon world was rendered uninhabitable" means that the Federation lost a world.

Yup. The tech was locked away in the secret warehouse.

 

[CT_Phipps]

Lower Decks had Genesis perfected and mass produced for use in Terraforming to the point there were Ferengi knockoff's.

The Ferengi selling a thing is not a guarantee it is a good thing. Especially since it was in the weapons collection of a Ferengi not the terraforming one.

Also, in PIC, they have a Genesis Device at the Daystrom Institute so it's clearly not been "normalized"

 

[Fateor]

The Ferengi selling a thing is not a guarantee it is a good thing. Especially since it was in the weapons collection of a Ferengi not the terraforming one.

Also, in PIC, they have a Genesis Device at the Daystrom Institute so it's clearly not been "normalized"

The Ferengi specifically referred to it as a device used for terraforming planets.

And it was a Genesis Mark II on display.

 

[CT_Phipps]

The Ferengi specifically referred to it as a device used for terraforming planets.

I mean it does do that.

But it was on a ship of weapons banned by Grand Nangus Rom.