Heh....what if the second Trek movie were parenthesized like a pretentiously deep song title?
"Into Darkness (Star Trek)".
"Into Darkness (Star Trek)".
The phrase “Into Darkness”.
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It was StarFleet led by Marcus, not our heroes, which fell "Into Darkness". Our heroes helped bring the light... which is why they are heroes.
I don't think that ever bothered the Russians or the Ukrainians. Both happily translate Nemesis and STID as "Star Trek Nemesis" and don't give a damn.
Well said.
"Star Trek Into Darkness" doesn't make any sense no matter how many times I repeat it.
I also noticed that one of the new Doctor Who promos was using the phrase "Into Darkness".
I also noticed that one of the new Doctor Who promos was using the phrase "Into Darkness".
I made this post back in 2012...
Well, Wrath of Khan was originally supposed to be "Revenge of Khan" so there's that.
Also, Into Darkness makes sense to me. I'm not sure why it is so confusing. I mean, it shows the darker aspects of human nature, it shows Starfleet moving towards a darker path of war, rather than exploration, highlighted by Scotty's comment, "I thought we were explorers." It shows the breaking point of Spock, and his willingness to murder Khan after Kirk's death.
The theme of darkness and maturity is really what draws me to that film.
^ You can no doubt find meaning if you think about it but it feels like you really have to twist it around in your head and force something out. It's not a clever title the way something like 'Star Trek Generations' is.
As a title, Star Trek: The Next Generation wasn't exactly much to write home about in the first place, in terms of originality.
Which is funny because many have regarded Abrams Trek as rather mindless
I think it flows rather well, but that's just me. You have to think about "Undiscovered Country" as well, and build off of what the film gives you. I don't think it is a meaningless title but one that requires thought and context.
Speaking of mindless, how can you even have a star trek into darkness? It doesn't even make sense. If you trekked onto a star, you will die because of an excessive lack of darkness. Literally. The only episodes to live up to the "Star Trek" claim were Operation Annihilate and The Cogenitor. All the rest are spoofs.
Then again, Generations was a star's trek into darkness, so maybe the spoofs are not that bad after all..
Then again, Generations was a star's trek into darkness, so maybe the spoofs are not that bad after all..
Not that I recall. Lucasfilm complained that "Vengeance of Khan" was too close to their already-promoted "Revenge of the Jedi", and so it became "Wrath of Khan" instead. And then someone pointed out to George Lucas that he'd already stated that revenge was not the way of the Jedi.
ST II was also "The Undiscovered Country" for a time, and seemingly misquoted as "The Uncharted Continent" in an early "Starlog" news bit.
The UK vehicles for ST II (Enterprise and Klingon ships) were released with "Vengeance of Khan" on the header cards.
Yeah, reading Nick Meyers opinion on the whole matter is rather entertaining. Thank you for the correction
I had not read up on them recently, but I had switch the words "Revenge" and "Vengeance."
"Vengeance of Khan" would have been an ironic title since he never truly got his vengeance, he was blown to pieces before he could get it.
Star Trek II: The Monologue of Khan
It's an OK title, although avoiding a colon feels slightly change-for-its-own-sake, but I didn't think the film lived up to it (yeah Insurrection was overstated too) with Kirk tempted to do some (authorized) malevolent things for a few minutes and then Spock trying to do them at the end and then not apparently having any regrets.
But actually only a small section of Starfleet, albeit believing that it could manipulate the rest.
But actually only a small section of Starfleet, albeit believing that it could manipulate the rest.
I think the title has more merit than it appears in the first place.
