THE ORVILLE S2, E5: "ALL THE WORLD IS BIRTHDAY CAKE"

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Wind Premium Member

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    Well, they don't do those kinds of expository voice-overs very often on the show - few or no logs, journals etc. The stardate was only invented to give an illusion of verisimilitude to that kind of thing, not because it serves any necessary "in-universe" function.
     
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  2. Trekker4747

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    Unless they're using some uniform system throughout the Union, it would've been luck Kelly and Bortus's birthdays were close this year. If Moclan has a different length stellar cycle than Earth's solar year, then they won't line up like this next year.

    Again, unless they're on some system throughout the Union based on something other than stellar cycles.
     
  3. DonIago

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    Maybe Moclans use the Hebrew calendar...

    ...er, I'm Jewish, so I'm allowed to say that. :p
     
  4. King Daniel Beyond

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    I mostly liked this one. The aliens looked like teenage girls out clubbing with glitter on their faces. The premise was stupid for the reasons others said, although religious/whatever belief doesn't have to make sense and that I'm sure was much of the point.

    Bortas and Kelly killed loads of the locals in their escape attempt, which should have been a far bigger deal than it was.

    The ending was too quick, too easy and too reminiscent of Voyager.
     
  5. JD

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    Have they said at all what century The Orville is supposed to be set in?
     
  6. The Wormhole

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    25th
     
  7. JD

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    OK, thanks.
     
  8. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Was it really the 25th century, or the 2500s? One of those, anyway. Doesn't really matter, though. Far enough to be outer space high sf, but close enough to our time that it is not completely outrageously silly the characters know quite a bit about our popular culture.
     
  9. theenglish

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    The aliens would say, "What the hell? Why hasn't this planet formed a unified government yet like all civilized societies. These people are barbarians." Then they would post sign posts around the solar system warning other space faring travelers to steer clear.
     
  10. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Wind Premium Member

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    Nope.
     
  11. Trekker4747

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    The pilot episode takes place, per title card, in 2418.
     
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  12. The Wormhole

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    That doesn't even go on in Star Trek. Remember in TNG Attached when a planet without a unified government was actually being considered for Federation membership?
     
  13. DonIago

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    Though that was considered an, IIRC, nearly-unprecedented exception.
     
  14. Serveaux

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    The Federation can set up hard and fast, absolutist rules for what kind of people it will and will not deal with because it exists in an ahistorical Utopia where nothing it does is born of the necessity of working within an unruly reality.
     
  15. theenglish

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    My point being, assuming similar intelligent life lives in the universe why would our model of governance be relevant--and we are living in a global society that has only connected people world wide in real time for about two decades. Our current opinions of nationality will not be relevant in the next century to what our experience is today so why do we place these standards on other worlds in our fiction?
     
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  16. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    ^^ For one thing, people write about (and comment on) what they know. And, while there is SF out there that legitimately attempts to theorize about future or alternate social structures, shows like Orville and Star Trek are not really about the people of tomorrow-- they are allegories about the people of today in a futuristic wrapping.
     
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  17. BillJ

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    This one kinda fell flat with me. Interesting concept that really didn't lend itself to such a abrupt ending.

    Of course, the last three episodes were of such high quality ("Primal Urges", "Home", "Nothing Left on Earth Excepting Fishes") that is impossible to keep up.
     
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