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THE ORVILLE S2, E3: "HOME"

This episode was definitely the best of the three episodes aired so far. The revenge plot was very cliched by John Billingsley always plays unhinged sickos really well like his serial killer on Cold Case and his pedophile on NYPD Blue so I really didn't mind too much

The elephant guy's eating was just nasty. I hope he's not around much because his personality was just damn annoying..
 
Cyrus said:
Yeah, I remember he was very good as Mirror Phlox.

I think I saw Norm Macdonald listed in the credits but don't remember seeing or hearing Yaphit. Must have been a very short scene that I missed.
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He had a line at the beginning of the episode before Issac and Alara arm wrestled.
 
Now THAT was more like it. What a wonderful, wonderful episode. 10/10

Just a wonderful little character piece. I immediately rewatched it once it finished airing.
 
Still not sure I buy the reasoning that Alara had to leave: they have artificial gravity onboard, so how much work would it be to set up a higher grav room for her to do a workout every day?
 
Liked the episode but was very upset by the loss of Alara, who was my favorite character. And her about-face at the end just seemed unconvincing, given what we know about her past life, and her investment in the ship and its crew.
 
matthunter said:
Still not sure I buy the reasoning that Alara had to leave: they have artificial gravity onboard, so how much work would it be to set up a higher grav room for her to do a workout every day?
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Because she had another acting gig and broke up with Seth off screen.
 
Cyrus said:
Yeah, I remember he was very good as Mirror Phlox.
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While I was sad to see Alara go, the best part of the episode was watching two ex-Trek doctors sharing scenes with one another. And I love the fight scene b/w the Alara's Dad/EMH Doctor (Picardo) vs the intruder/Phlox (Billingsley). You don't see this in the Trek-verse, that I can tell you ;);)

Now THAT was more like it. What a wonderful, wonderful episode. 10/10
Just a wonderful little character piece. I immediately rewatched it once it finished airing.
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Agreed. It's definitely in the same category as "About a Girl," "If the Star Should Appear" and "Majority Rule" from S1 in terms of its quality. IMHO they should've pushed both 'Primal Urges" and "Ja'loja" to the end of S1, while 'Home' (or 'Mad Idolatry') should've been S2's premiere.

With somewhat disappointing rating figures from the first two episodes, I hope this won't be a decision the show-runners will regret later :confused:.
 
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picardjean-luc said:
You don't see this in the Trek-verse, that I can tell you ;);)



Agreed. It's definitely in the same category as "About a Girl," "If the Star Should Appear" and "Majority Rule" from S1 in terms of its quality. IMHO they should've pushed both 'Primal Urges" and "Ja'loja" to the end of S1, while 'Home' (or 'Mad Idolatry') should've been S2's premiere.
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How could they? They are from different eras or if you mean the actors, endless cameos would kind of distract IMO........As for this being the premiere, how would they have explained Alara being back in the next 2 episodes? :confused:
 
Where can I read about. low ratings? Is the show in danger of being canceled? You'd hope Seth would have some pull with FOX given all he's done for them...
 
Wonderful character episode. The crew saying goodbye to Alara in the shuttlebay actually made me cry. Very moving! And the jar of pickles was a nice touch! Well done Orville!
 
Screenrant is really not much more than clickbait - it's in that gray zone with shit like comicbookmovie.com, where everything they publish is late and third-hand but they make a big fucking deal out of it.

Zap2It.com isn't a bad site for following reasonably detailed, specific daily ratings figures.

The Orville has at least three things going for it that make at least one more season likely - the first is the much discussed 14 million dollar tax incentive that brings the cost of the show down considerably, the second is the network's relationship with MacFarlane (the impact of which is honestly fairly limited, I'd think) and the third is that Fox owns the show. It was the fifth best performing show on the network overall last season, so we'll have to wait and see how it does this year in that context.
 
It's fun to see the effects of gravity on Solea, but it would have been nice if they worked harder to visually distinguish it. I'm sure in the hands of a human that grass is lead razorblades. But I wish they'd worked a little harder to make all the trees and such look a little more like they were surviving in super gravity instead of just letting us use imaginations that all those things are just way tougher than they look.

Also can't help but feel geographic features should be a little flatter? Buildings should maybe have more support columns?

It's a scifi show on a planet with super gravity and they made it look just like Earth so we had to use our imaginations that everything was actually way stronger and tougher, instead of using it as an opportunity to imagine the visual implications of that gravity. Seems like a waste of the genre.

Also now I'm hoping Gates McFadden and Alex Siddig somehow show up playing Soleans.
 
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For me it hit all of the right buttons. Pathos, frustration and anger at family, wanting to be seen as an equal, feeling helpless and knowing you can be so much more, the danger element was exciting, and of course it's a blast to see Robert Picardo, John Billingsley, and so many other wonderful actors make their cameos. The scene where Billingsley's character has Ildis reach into the boiling soup pot had me on the edge of my seat. The tone turned from comfortable to dangerous so very smoothly, and you knew that this was no longer a normal situation. I was certain we were going to see Alara's sister lose her hand.

On a lighter note, I loved seeing Patrick Warburton (called it last week! :D ), and I laughed at Malloy's "I'm just trash, my family is just trash" monologue while they were landing on Xelaya. :lol:

This show is just terrific, and I think this may be one of their best episodes yet, and for me that's saying a lot because I do love this show, and I feel this sense of hope and optimism that I'm not seeing in so many other sci-fi shows. I feel Seth, and everyone else involved, really struck the right tone, and I hope to see more of these in the future. Oh, and yeah, the jar of pickles made me tear up because that was just a perfect way to end the episode. Pitch perfect. A+. Can't wait until next week!
 
JirinPanthosa said:
It's fun to see the effects of gravity on Solea, but it would have been nice if they worked harder to visually distinguish it. I'm sure in the hands of a human that grass is lead razorblades. But I wish they'd worked a little harder to make all the trees and such look a little more like they were surviving in super gravity instead of just letting us use imaginations that all those things are just way tougher than they look.

Also can't help but feel geographic features should be a little flatter? Buildings should maybe have more support columns?

It's a scifi show on a planet with super gravity and they made it look just like Earth so we had to use our imaginations that everything was actually way stronger and tougher, instead of using it as an opportunity to imagine the visual implications of that gravity. Seems like a waste of the genre.
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Seems like a budget. And really..........everything is relative. Why waste time and effort on something that doesn't push the STORY, which is what is really important, right? I think Ed's legs and the bottle kinda showed us the gravity in action.
 
The Orville's approach to aliens is much more grounded in old pulps and "comic book physics" than in current science - it works for the general feeling of a show that's essentially old style space opera with a humorous angle that discourages too much analysis. It's basically Trek's nonsense approach to alien biology, turned up to 11.
 
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There be plot holes abound, like were these villains just hanging around waiting to see if Alara's dad would show up to the beach house in the off season? Why can't Gordon just move the ship 8 feet & extend its shields around Ed? It only broke his shins & didn't crush his entire foot like the bottle? etc... etc... little stuff like that
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Or they were keep track of Alara's family for a time when they were somewhere nice and quiet so they carry out the
Cyrus said:
I think I saw Norm Macdonald listed in the credits but don't remember seeing or hearing Yaphit. Must have been a very short scene that I missed.
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Yaphit was in the mess hall scene at the start. he was down under the table but he didn't have any lines (maybe they were cut for time)
 
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Or they were keep track of Alara's family for a time when they were somewhere nice and quiet so they carry out the
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Yep. Ildis had to notify someone, at least the groundskeeper, that they were coming out to visit for a few days, because he was waiting for them when they arrived. So they're going to be on that island all by themselves, secluded from the crowds long enough that they could throw their plan into action. People do that now. It's quite believable.

Yaphit was in the mess hall scene at the start. he was down under the table but he didn't have any lines (maybe they were cut for time)
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He had a line asking what was going on, though I watched it on Fox's website where there's, maybe, 2 minutes worth of commercials.
 
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