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THE ORVILLE S2, E3: "HOME"

Yeah, the scene was very well written and executed. At first, when Billingsley's character says "the spoon is dirty, get another one", I thought he was just a weird OCD germaphobe or something. And when he says to use his hand, I thought he was just a weirdo. But then when he pulls the gun out and demands he burn his hand, I realize what was going on. So there was a nice progression there. And Billingsley acted the scene perfectly, with just the right level of crazy and menace.
Exactly my thought process as well. Someone needs to keep Billingsley out of my nightmares. :lol:

It's always hard to argue snark, because it's essentially a posture rather than observation.

Nicely rendered sequence. I liked it.

They kind of wasted an incredible costume, there, though - you really couldn't see much of it:

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YES. I loved that scene. Then again, I fucking love unicorns*.


(*Adjective placement is important here)

I actually thought the scene was pretty hot. The actress is very attractive and the costume is great. I'd definitely ride with her into the sunset. ;)
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation*.




*This is an AWFUL pun, but I stand by it.
 
YES. I loved that scene. Then again, I fucking love unicorns*.

It was a hot girl riding a unicorn. What's not to love?

I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation*.
*This is an AWFUL pun, but I stand by it.

Good one! Yeah, it's a shame I would be instantly turned into a human pancake if I tried to ride with her on that planet.
 
It was a hot girl riding a unicorn. What's not to love?
This is 100% correct.

Good one! Yeah, it's a shame I would be instantly turned into a human pancake if I tried to ride with her on that planet.
I think somewhere, deep inside, we'd be willing to risk it. Why? Because we're idiots, but we're idiots in love, so whadayagonadoo? :lol:
 
Still not sure I buy the reasoning that Alara had to leave: they have artificial gravity onboard, so how much work would it be to set up a higher grav room for her to do a workout every day?
That was exactly what they did for her at the end, they found a way to set up an area of stronger gravity in the simulator, but she decided to go back to Xelaya to be with her family instead.
Screenrant is really not much more than clickbait - it's in that gray zone with shit like comicbookmovie.com, where everything they publish is late and third-hand but they make a big fucking deal out of it.

Zap2It.com isn't a bad site for following reasonably detailed, specific daily ratings figures.

The Orville has at least three things going for it that make at least one more season likely - the first is the much discussed 14 million dollar tax incentive that brings the cost of the show down considerably, the second is the network's relationship with MacFarlane (the impact of which is honestly fairly limited, I'd think) and the third is that Fox owns the show. It was the fifth best performing show on the network overall last season, so we'll have to wait and see how it does this year in that context.
An article I read the other day also said that it does have good on demand/streaming numbers.
It's fun to see the effects of gravity on Solea, but it would have been nice if they worked harder to visually distinguish it. I'm sure in the hands of a human that grass is lead razorblades. But I wish they'd worked a little harder to make all the trees and such look a little more like they were surviving in super gravity instead of just letting us use imaginations that all those things are just way tougher than they look.

Also can't help but feel geographic features should be a little flatter? Buildings should maybe have more support columns?

It's a scifi show on a planet with super gravity and they made it look just like Earth so we had to use our imaginations that everything was actually way stronger and tougher, instead of using it as an opportunity to imagine the visual implications of that gravity. Seems like a waste of the genre.

Also now I'm hoping Gates McFadden and Alex Siddig somehow show up playing Soleans.
It's Xelaya and Xelayan.

I have mixed thoughts.

The Alara stuff was very sweet. A nice send off (which I hope is not really the end).

I still have the sense of...meandering. Three episodes in and I really don’t feel like anything has happened. Not every week needs to be an “out of this world adventure”, but I feel the momentum from Season One has slowed a bit.

Next week looks like a more “conventional” episode, so we’ll see.

PS: That soup scene...yikes! :lol:
I'm almost starting to feel like we've gotten a bit of false advertising so far. All Seth talked about in the promotional interviews was how much bigger the episodes were going to be, and how there was going be a ton of action this season, but these first three episode have all been fairly small scale, with very little action. I've been enjoying them, but they definitely don't feel like what he was talking about there. Maybe they just saved the budget on these early episodes so they'd have more for bigger episodes later. Next week's definitely looks like a bigger action heavy episode.
I loved this one, some nice character work for Alara building to a nice farewell, and a nice bit of action with her and her family being held captive. The whole cast really did a great job here, it was especially fun seeing Robert Picardo and John Billingsley. The scene with the sauce was done perfectly, it seemed nice enough at first, but the menace built up until Cambis force Ildis to put his hand in the sauce.
I like animals, and sci-fi creatures so I liked the scenes with the Xelayan horse creature. both Solana petting the one on the beach, and Alara's fantasy.
I was a bit surprised they had Alara go back to the ship, and then go back home again, but I guess they must have wanted to give everybody else a chance to say goodbye.
I loved the jar of pickles at the end.
 
I'm almost starting to feel like we've gotten a bit of false advertising so far. All Seth talked about in the promotional interviews was how much bigger the episodes were going to be, and how there was going be a ton of action this season, but these first three episode have all been fairly small scale, with very little action. I've been enjoying them, but they definitely don't feel like what he was talking about there. Maybe they just saved the budget on these early episodes so they'd have more for bigger episodes later. Next week's definitely looks like a bigger action heavy episode.

It's only been 3 episodes so far and one of them was a holdover from last season. So really, it's only been 2 episodes so far. The season is far from over. It is far too early to say if the advertising was misleading.
 
It's only been 3 episodes so far and one of them was a holdover from last season. So really, it's only been 2 episodes so far. The season is far from over. It is far too early to say if the advertising was misleading.
Oh, I forgot about the fact that one was a holdover from last season, and I know the season is far from over, that's why I was saying that maybe they just saved money on these episodes to have more for bigger ones later in the season. It's just that the way Seth McFarlane was talking I was expecting all of the episodes to big and epic.
On a side, I was wonder what Halston Sage was riding on the beach? A horse or a green screen covered fake creature? I was looking around on her twitter feed, and she did have a link to a picture from the filming of that scene, but you couldn't tell what she was riding.
 
This feels like one of those episodes in which a non-Human character has to choose between his/her homeworld (or culture) and the Federation/Planetary Union.
 
Could be saving money for a hellua arc coming up.......as @JD said.........we've only really seen 2 new episodes.
 
I would have been good with "Dream Weaver" as the music though........

I think that level of tacky requires Gordon to be fantasizing.

Speaking of Grimes, here's what he told Collider about what's ahead this season:

Season 2 is completely bigger. Even though the first couple of episodes didn’t really show that, it gets gargantuan soon. The great thing about doing Season 2 was our confidence. We knew that we had an audience, we knew we could get a little more dramatic and serious, and we knew that we could get a little tiny bit less goofy ‘cause we didn’t have to sell that anymore. We just knew what we were. It’s like being a veteran on a sports team. You’ve been doing it awhile, so you have that confidence to try something new. Confidence is big in any vocation, but as an actor, if you can go in front of that camera with more confidence, it’s gonna show, and it makes you feel better.

He also mentions, in passing, "the dark Star Trek kind of world." TImes have certainly changed...
 
What's wrong with riding unicorns? As long as they don't stab you with their horn or bite your nipple off then there is nothing wrong with doing this.


Jason
 
I like the episode (Just finished it now) but like I said in a previous post, would have been nice if they did more visually with the high gravity planet. Like having Picardo raise his arms like he's floating when he enters the low gravity field. Or designing the plants and background around high concept super-gravity.

And they need to get more Star Trek doctors to play Soleans!!
 
This episode was easily the best of S2. I agree the Xelayan landscape and various structures didn't scream high gravity, but it was beautifully rendered. Picardo and Billingsley were both wonderful. Halston Sage did a great job as well.

I had been wondering all through S1 if they would address muscle and bone atrophy in, what for Alara was, a low gravity environment.

Regarding nitpicks, there's a few but they're minor.
  • I think that Alara's reacclimation to Xelaya's gravity was a bit contrived. She was hoverchair bound during most of the time on her planet, then when the plot required it, she's on her feet kicking @## and taking names.
  • As pointed out above, Ildis didn't seem to behave as though he was in a low G environment during his brief time in the shuttle.
  • The Orville has artificial gravity. It never occurred to anyone to try and crank up the gravity in a certain part of the ship? I guess this could be explained away by artificial gravity being an all or nothing technology, in that you dial it in for 1G or 2G or whatever you want, but it affects the entire ship.
I've been enjoying the last three character based episodes, but I'm ready for an action based episode at this point.
 
There was something in this episode I loved probably more then any other episode, and that was the music. When everyone is talking about the Xelayan landscape, I thought it was gorgeous because the music elevated it for me, as it did with the final goodbye. Whoever scored this episode did a masterful job.
 
Actually, I loved Gordon's cringingly neurotic emotional reaction to his awe of the place: "It makes me realize...I'm trash. My family is trash." :lol:

  • As pointed out above, Ildis didn't seem to behave as though he was in a low G environment during his brief time in the shuttle.
Well, Alara doesn't behave noticeably differently from other people until she's called upon to.
 
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Did she come directly from Xelaya to the Orville? I had just assumed that she had been on Earth and other ships enough that she was used to our lower gravity.
I wasn't really that bothered the fact that that they didn't design the Xelayan city and landscape to look like a high gravity planet since I absolutely loved the art design.
Like having Picardo raise his arms like he's floating when he enters the low gravity field.
This was the one high gravity thing that did bother me. I expected him to at least stumble or look shocked or something like that when walked onto the shuttle, but he didn't really seem to react at all.
And they need to get more Star Trek doctors to play Soleans!!
Xelayan.
The Orville has artificial gravity. It never occurred to anyone to try and crank up the gravity in a certain part of the ship? I guess this could be explained away by artificial gravity being an all or nothing technology, in that you dial it in for 1G or 2G or whatever you want, but it affects the entire ship.
At the end, before Alara decided to leave, they did come up to a way to create an area of higher gravity in the simulator, but Alara decided to return home rather than use it.
 
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