THE ORVILLE: S1, E7: "MAJORITY RULE"

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Serveaux, Oct 20, 2017.

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  1. Prax

    Prax Commodore Commodore

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    What's the difference?

    J/k

    Maybe it means drugs. "You gotsta get yo mind right." That's what Snoop Dogg says, and he's talking about drugs:shrug:
     
  2. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Wind Premium Member

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    Nah. The whole "utopia" of Star Trek has always struck me as a kind of Stepford Future.
     
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  3. theenglish

    theenglish Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    What made Star Trek great was not Gene Roddenberry's "vision". He's always been given too much credit for that. The OS was made great by a group of fantastic writers, several of whom went on to craft great stories in the other series. The future is a utopia by our standards but in all the series, what makes the story compelling are the flaws in that utopia. DS9 was the closest in spirit to the original series but even TNG showed how the Federation had pockets of discontent.
     
  4. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Wind Premium Member

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    TOS didn't portray a utopia - it was just a fairly standard sci-fi future of the type we saw in much pulp fiction of the 40s and 50s. Everything's cleaner, everything works better, the more humane trends, as the writers saw them, of the modern era were extrapolated forward as well - a better solution to crime, faith in psychiatry as a science, etc. Fans of the thing latched on to the shiny fifties future as some kind of beacon of hope given that these folks were flying spaceships instead of having blown the world to smithereens.

    Funny thing - like Trek would, most popular sf writers of the time did reject the notion of racial bigotry as barbaric and outmoded while - like Trek - continuing to utilize variations of racist stereotypes in their writing. Heinlein is a good example.
     
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  5. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    Making somebody's "mind right" doesn't mean zombifying them. It's exactly what we do now-- from counseling to medical treatment for mental illness-- just with more effective techniques. It's better to fix somebody's problems than to incarcerate or kill them.
     
  6. Velocity

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    Maybe that works on starships where a captain and officers maintain the status quo, but I wonder if the people on earth are able to be as high-minded on their own.