The ONLY thing I hated about STXI (please explain)

[SalvorHardin]

On the other hand, if the reality of a mud-caked sow with flies buzzing around her as she lounges in a pen that smells like shit-squared does put a guy in the mood, well, he deserves to be made fun of.
A farm boy knows he is much better off with that fresh-baked cherry pie in the kitchen.

 

[Disillusioned]

We'll just tell your mother that we ate the pie...

 

[-Brett-]

I chuckled at the line. In my college days I used a similar insult on some farm girl.

As for it not being "family friendly", Voyager did episodes about Space Barney. Look how well that worked out. The fewer kids in the audience, the better.

 

[Cpt Cullison]

that may have been over the top but the one thing that pissed me of was Tyler Perry why the fuck was he in star trek in the first place, he might as well dressed up like madea

 

[Crazy Eddie]

I didn't like the farm animals line either. It was one of the few non-family-friendly moments in the film for my preteens.

I can almost guarantee you that your preteens have heard that line before.

that may have been over the top but the one thing that pissed me of was Tyler Perry why the fuck was he in star trek in the first place

Because like many filmmakers, he's a long-time trekkie. Unlike many filmmakers, he had both the initiative and the clout to beg Abrams for a part.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was under the impression was wasn't a fan, but was a pal of Abrams

 

[CommanderRaytas]

We'll just tell your mother that we ate the pie...

If that were the most disgusting part of that film, I'd be happy. Ew.

I found the sperm beer much more offensive than Uhura's farm animal line.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

We'll just tell your mother that we ate the pie...

If that were the most disgusting part of that film, I'd be happy. Ew.

I found the sperm beer much more offensive than Uhura's farm animal line.

I think you mean semen beer.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

If you can tell me whether there is a difference in said beer's taste, I'll concede. Otherwise, semantics, pragmatics, whatever.

 

[Psion]

If you can tell me whether there is a difference in said beer's taste, I'll concede. Otherwise, semantics, pragmatics, whatever.

Hmmm ... there might be a difference in taste since semen contains not just the sperm, but a supporting fluid that protects the sperm. That fluid is basically like snotty sea water and is probably the source for most of the ... flavor ... of semen. Sperm by themselves would have more of a bread like taste that might complement the beer.

 

[Franklin]

If you can tell me whether there is a difference in said beer's taste, I'll concede. Otherwise, semantics, pragmatics, whatever.

Hmmm ... there might be a difference in taste since semen contains not just the sperm, but a supporting fluid that protects the sperm. That fluid is basically like snotty sea water and is probably the source for most of the ... flavor ... of semen. Sperm by themselves would have more of a bread like taste that might complement the beer.

NEVER! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, did I think something would put me off beer! Thanks a lot!!!!

 

[DonIago]

^You're better off.

Cocktail fan here.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I didn't think anyone would take the bait.

I any case, one doesn't show up without the other, so.....

But still, ew. After watching that, I sort of stopped drinking beer myself, having only started a few months earlier due to the fact that I was only 16.

 

[Jeri]

This conversation has devolved to beer -- the thread is officially over.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Exactly.

I didn't care for my 13 year old to hear that. That's just a completely unnecessary line for a Trek film. If this was truly a film aimed at adults, why would they be marketing to kids even younger than 13? Look at all of the action figures and toys. Many of them are aimed directly at 8-12 year old boys. I'm not talking about the collectables that adults buy.

I remember years ago when Saturday Night Fever came out and was a huge hit, it was rereleased toned down so that teens could go see it and enjoy the film. I know, I know: I'm dating myself here, but I would really like to see that become a regular thing for Trek films: release at the same time to theatres a PG and a PG-13 or even R version. Then, when it is released on disc, both versions would be included. The director would film dual scenes when necessary and he woul approve the edited version so that his vision is left intact. I think that's what was done for some scenes of the Sopranos so that it could be sold into sindication. The PG version would also be the version that would be aired on broadcast TV and perhaps on cable/sat for some showings.

You are entitled to wish to shield your children from what you consider inappropriate language (or anything else). However, the target of movie ratings should be what the majority of the general population is willing to tolerate for any given age point--not the outliers at either end. NOTHING in Trek XI is remotely "over the line" for a PG-13 movie as far as that majority is concerned. And if this particular PG-13 movie was sufficiently coarse to offend you, then it is your responsibility (now that you know what the mild end of the PG-13 spectrum is like--the LOTR movies and The Dark Knight are far more violent and should be far more offensive to you) as a parent seeking to shelter your children from potential offence to prescreen other films you think might be objectionable. I did that with the five Harry Potter films currently available for home viewing. I scored a bargain for all five, thinking my kids would like to see them someday, and when my then six year old daughter asked me if she could watch them, I watched them alone first (not having seen them before purchase). I decided, knowing her as I do, that they were a bit too intense for her and she should wait until age 9 or 10. OR you could also do what I do with my children when they are inadvertently exposed to something I consider inappropriate. Use the moment in question as something to discuss--tell them you find it inappropriate and get them to reason out why that is. Works wonders with my kids and it teaches them to think rather than simply fear or disdain as a reflex.

Well said, and I agree. I'm not a father but my brother is, and this is what he does

 

[freak]

I personally didn't mind this dialogue..because the movie was rated PG-13 and wasn't intended for any pre-teens to begin with. Hello..can't you say RATING WARNING?! :P Anyhow, I wished they would have also gone about five years into the future and given Kirk command of the Enterprise then instead of the end of the movie.
Two things that bugged me about this movie where-the end of two cultures, so to speak(even though there are only 10,000 vulcans onboard the Enterprise now) and the love interest between Spock and Uhura. I..simply...did...not..get..that! But I guess it's an "alternate reality" movie and in an "alternate reality" movie, things are a bit different.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

not all 10,000 Vulcans are on the ship. I guess they are counting many that were "off-planet" at the time of the destruction.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

This conversation has devolved to beer.

At some point, this always happens, somehow.

 

[Jeri]

Yes, hmm. How does that work.

 

[Trekker4747]

I personally didn't mind this dialogue..because the movie was rated PG-13 and wasn't intended for any pre-teens to begin with. Hello..can't you say RATING WARNING?! :P Anyhow, I wished they would have also gone about five years into the future and given Kirk command of the Enterprise then instead of the end of the movie.
Two things that bugged me about this movie where-the end of two cultures, so to speak(even though there are only 10,000 vulcans onboard the Enterprise now) and the love interest between Spock and Uhura. I..simply...did...not..get..that! But I guess it's an "alternate reality" movie and in an "alternate reality" movie, things are a bit different.

PG-13 doesn't mean "no one under 13 should watch this" just that parents should be advised that parents should be aware that material in the movie may not be appropriate for persons under 13 and to make their own judgments. And, honestly, Star Trek should be rated G when you compare it to all of the stuff shown and done on prime-time TV.

When I watched this the other night with my family my niece (7) came in and watched it and she loved it. She knew to cover her eyes when she saw Kirk in bed with Gaila and we told her to open them when Kirk cock-blocked himself so my niece could see that Gaila was green.