The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[bullethead]

In the meantime... our Blu-Ray screencaps continue, with some stunning images from the (not-so-stunning-episode) 'Code of Honor':
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=6

The Observations article will follow with our partners at Ex Astris Scientia very soon!

I'm incredibly amused by the fact that the torpedoes still detonate in low orbit rather than in the actual atmosphere.

 

[Michael]

Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.

 

[FrontierTrek]

Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.

Definitely not upscaled - there's so much more detail in the shot compared to the SD version. But there are certainly some issues with that particular shot, perhaps one of the resident videophiles here can shed some light on it.

 

[Maxwell Everett]

Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.

Good catch! I can now see what you were talking about... those are scaling artifacts. For some reason the original shot (after being scanned from film) ended up with a vertical resolution of 540p, and they did a simple "Nearest Neighbor" enlargement to 1080p.

You can verify this by taking the TrekCore image into Photoshop and reducing the vertical resolution by half to 540 (uncheck "Constrain Proportions"). The image will now be squashed, but the "jaggies" will be gone. Now scale it back up to 1080 using "Nearest Neighbor"-- it will look the same as it did before.

 

[Trekker4747]

Anyone else notice the flickering/failing fluorescent light inside the transporter room wall panel? Never noticed it before but it's very obvious in pretty much every scene that takes place in the transporter room where the panel is seen. Obviously the ballast to the fixture was going out during the filming of the season and no one could take the 20-minutes to replace it.

 

[GameOn]

Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.

Good catch! I can now see what you were talking about... those are scaling artifacts. For some reason the original shot (after being scanned from film) ended up with a vertical resolution of 540p, and they did a simple "Nearest Neighbor" enlargement to 1080p.

You can verify this by taking the TrekCore image into Photoshop and reducing the vertical resolution by half to 540 (uncheck "Constrain Proportions"). The image will now be squashed, but the "jaggies" will be gone. Now scale it back up to 1080 using "Nearest Neighbor"-- it will look the same as it did before.

I've wondered something similar since seeing that shot. It's kind of like they've taken one 1080i interlaced field which would be 1920 x 540 and then stretched it out to fill the whole frame.

In "The Battle" when Wesley is talking to Dr Crusher and Troi there's a really obvious interlaced shot lasting for several seconds at 32:57 and then a pixelated one at 33:02.

I've noticed interlaced and pixelated frames here and there in a number of episodes, they're difficult to spot but going frame by frame you can see them. I don't understand why they're there as the blu-rays should have been produced end to end in progressive scan. I wonder if it's some sort of bit stream flag issue.

 

[raffie]

Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.

Definitely not upscaled - there's so much more detail in the shot compared to the SD version. But there are certainly some issues with that particular shot, perhaps one of the resident videophiles here can shed some light on it.

This is an interlacing issue, the fields (odd lines / even lines) were switched. But then I would assume the blu-ray wouldn't contain interlaced video but rather progressive, so for some reason this interlaced piece of video was used which would also produce a result like this if your output was going to be progressive.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

I think it is time to retire this well used thread since there are two new ones to play with in the sticky stack. Farewell old thread; you have served admirably.