The Office: 6X08 Koi Pond Discussion

[AliciaD496]

Yeah, I saw Jim's stepping out of Michael's way as he fell and not helping him as his way of not having Dunder-Mifflin look like total idiots at the meeting by having TWO wet managers.

As for what's coming from this whole co-managers arc, I'm wondering if there isn't a slight parallel to the UK version of the office here and Michael's going to end up getting himself fired (possibly by fumbling his job as the 'big picture manager' too much?) like Brent did. Jim deciding to step down as manager after a short while leaving Dwight to take over might make sense (as it was the UK's version of Dwight that was the manager in the Christmas special).

Then again after Stress Relief last season I just don't see David Wallace trusting Dwight with ANY responsibility where as he's always liked and trusted Jim (never quite understood why he hired Ryan over Jim when he apparently 'likes' Jim so much other than Ryan looking better on paper because of his MBA).

I don't know...it seems like pretty much everything on the show ends up with a reset button in the end besides Jim and Pam (and Pam now being a salesperson). I don't think they'd ever get rid of Michael permanently.

After what both Michael AND Ryan did to Dunder-Mifflin I'm still amazed they agreed to re-hire EITHER of them frankly. Then again this show only slightly lives in reality because after what almost ALL the employees have done at one point or another they would have likely been fired in real life.

 

[Jono]

Then again after Stress Relief last season I just don't see David Wallace trusting Dwight with ANY responsibility where as he's always liked and trusted Jim (never quite understood why he hired Ryan over Jim when he apparently 'likes' Jim so much other than Ryan looking better on paper because of his MBA).

Jim withdrew from consideration for the position, which anyone can do when going for a job, even during an interview. In fact even after they offer you the job you can still reject it.

 

[Apophis]

After what both Michael AND Ryan did to Dunder-Mifflin I'm still amazed they agreed to re-hire EITHER of them frankly. Then again this show only slightly lives in reality because after what almost ALL the employees have done at one point or another they would have likely been fired in real life.

Wallace was up a creek, with the shareholders meeting coming up and Michaels company eroding their core business (even if it was unsustainable).

And it's pretty much been demonstrated more than once that (although no one seems to no why) only Michael can make that office work. Everyone else fails. And, somehow, he is a really great salesman (Wikipedia says he may be a savant). In the end I guess they look at it as simple numbers; yes, he's a pain, but he gets the job done.

 

[Jono]

Just noticed Dwight's brother was in the haunted house as well.

I don't think Jim and Pam are being any more arseholish then normal. I was surprised that the Pam's mum thing didn't get a mention at least. I also didn't get Pam's reaction to when Andy asked her about Erin.

 

[ParticleMan]

Then again after Stress Relief last season I just don't see David Wallace trusting Dwight with ANY responsibility where as he's always liked and trusted Jim (never quite understood why he hired Ryan over Jim when he apparently 'likes' Jim so much other than Ryan looking better on paper because of his MBA).

Jim withdrew from consideration for the position, which anyone can do when going for a job, even during an interview. In fact even after they offer you the job you can still reject it.

I always figured that Wallace's original plan was to hire Jim all along...everyone else being interviewed was there to fill up the necessary quota of interviewees. When Jim opted out, he was left with not too many options, although Karen would have been much, much better than Ryan, IMO. Maybe she took herself out of the running and asked for a branch manager position rather than becoming the ultimate supervisior over Scranton and being forced to interact regularly with Jim and everyone else...

And having worked in a corporate environment, I can totally buy them promoting Ryan under the circumstances...

 

[Broccoli]

My interpretation is that Jim didn't want to get dragged down into the water as well.

My interpretation is that Jim didn't want to get dragged down into the water as well.

He also felt Michael was overshadowing him. Jim probably wasn't too keen on stopping Michael from making himself look like an idiot.

I think it was a mix of both: Jim not wanting to get pulled down with and him, unconsciously, wanting Michael to look like a fool. Separate Peace syndrome.