Re: STXI Enterpise, Finished! Lots of images...
That being said... she's still fugly as all hell.
That being said... she's still fugly as all hell.
The New Enterprise in 3D! ... NOW FINISHED (threads merged)
- Thread starter MadMan1701A
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Awsome work, as always.
I did notice the little red stripes around the bridge module...LOL.
(you need the little blue starfleet logo on there too)
I'm joking.
Great work.
Waiting to see the multi-saucer "starbase" thread.
(Maybe the octopus ship after that?)
I had to add a small homage to yours in there, somewhere. The bridge module is the one that I was building for your conjectural ship, also. -=MadMan=-
Huh, In some of those shots it makes the saucer look bigger and go out past the nacelles even farther than mine does...I think most of the shapes are allright but the saucer is still to big...
Compare it with this image!
This one has a very forced closeup to the saucer
Another shot:
-=MadMan=-
OK, Since I decided to rebuild it...
I'm basing this more off of the shot on the ground, than the first pic we had. it doesn't seem as "stretched" out in that one, since the perspective isn't nearly as skewed.
I'm basing this more off of the shot on the ground, than the first pic we had. it doesn't seem as "stretched" out in that one, since the perspective isn't nearly as skewed.
This might be an excellent image to use as a template for getting the proportions of the ship right--compared with the other shots, it looks like it's being filmed with a very long lens, rendering it quasi-orthographic.
Yes, that is a tremendous help! It let me get the shape of the "neck" much closer to correct this time.
This might be an excellent image to use as a template for getting the proportions of the ship right--compared with the other shots, it looks like it's being filmed with a very long lens, rendering it quasi-orthographic.
Small Update, I just moved the "creases" on the neck and the sechull back a little, since I had them too far forward. Also tweaked the "wrinkle"
-=MadMan=-
The warp drive units are just to close together for me! Looks stupid! The nacelles are to big too!
LOL Yeah I noticed those and thought that was kind of cool.
Can't wait to see the new model, next to the old. If you could, make note of the changes you make (relating to studying screen caps etc.) That would be very interesting and helpful. Even little details.
I've been trying to conjure up some orthos, and this thing has me clueless...
it's like they keep changing things every time they rendered it...
maybe I just really need to go to lenscrafters and get some damn glasses.
Can't wait to see the new model, next to the old. If you could, make note of the changes you make (relating to studying screen caps etc.) That would be very interesting and helpful. Even little details.
I've been trying to conjure up some orthos, and this thing has me clueless...
it's like they keep changing things every time they rendered it...
maybe I just really need to go to lenscrafters and get some damn glasses.
No, I agree with you. There are different things going on in the construction shot that I can't see in the other photo, and then there are new things. Like the window below the torpedo launchers, for example.LOL Yeah I noticed those and thought that was kind of cool.
Can't wait to see the new model, next to the old. If you could, make note of the changes you make (relating to studying screen caps etc.) That would be very interesting and helpful. Even little details.
I've been trying to conjure up some orthos, and this thing has me clueless...
it's like they keep changing things every time they rendered it...
maybe I just really need to go to lenscrafters and get some damn glasses.
-=MadMan=-
No, it's actually not. You're probably trying to fit the stuff you've seen on-screen to what you EXPECT it to look like... which you can't do. The saucer IS oversized relative to the rest of the ship in this "newer, kewler" version, and the secondary hull IS undersized... and the nacelles are closer together... he's got the general arrangements down almost perfectly.
The only thing I pick up that looks "wrong" to me (actually, technically, it looks RIGHT to me, but the version seen in the film is wrong, and that's what he's trying to match!) is the overall shape of the nacelles.
He's got them too "consistent." In fact, they're huge, bulbous, and they don't change cross-section nearly as uniformly as they seem to in his model. They start off MASSIVE at the front, then "blob" down to a teeny tiny cross-section about halfway back.
It looks... bad. I think his take looks better... but the problem with all the variations I've seen of this so far have been that people are trying to make the details we've seen on-screen of this new beast to fit into the PROPORTIONS of the original. This "new ship" has only as much to do with the proportions of the classic 1701 as the "Ambassador" design did.
Thanks, Cary.
About the engines... they don't seem to taper down as much in the shot of it being put together on the ground. But, hopefully, in the new version I am putting together, I will get a little closer.
-=MadMan=-
A quick update...
The Engines are just a placeholder, of course.
The main difference here is that the pylons connect with a straight line to the Secondary Hull, instead of curving back up, as in the previous version.
-=MadMan=-
The Engines are just a placeholder, of course.
The main difference here is that the pylons connect with a straight line to the Secondary Hull, instead of curving back up, as in the previous version.
-=MadMan=-
The neck isn't quite thick enough, and the outer shell of the secondary hull is too regular. It should have slight "love handles" on each side of the hull, just above the bottom of the "belly".
FYI... has anyone actually noticed that the "bridge window" doesn't seem to be visible on the model? Unless it's where we would have previously imagined that it was the forward topside scanner (the "lit slot")... but there are three of those, one to either side and one up-front... and the two on the sides aren't windows...
Maybe this means that the front "window" isn't a window after all? Or maybe I'm just missing it? Or maybe it's a HUGE continuity goof?
Maybe this means that the front "window" isn't a window after all? Or maybe I'm just missing it? Or maybe it's a HUGE continuity goof?
No, I agree with you. There are different things going on in the construction shot that I can't see in the other photo, and then there are new things. Like the window below the torpedo launchers, for example.LOL Yeah I noticed those and thought that was kind of cool.
Can't wait to see the new model, next to the old. If you could, make note of the changes you make (relating to studying screen caps etc.) That would be very interesting and helpful. Even little details.
I've been trying to conjure up some orthos, and this thing has me clueless...
it's like they keep changing things every time they rendered it...
maybe I just really need to go to lenscrafters and get some damn glasses.
-=MadMan=-
"Like the window below the torpedo launchers, for example.
"I just got that.
LOL I think I was seeing a jpg artifact, and I just drew a circle around it, thinking it might be some greeble thing.Probably alot of what I tried to draw isn't even there.
Like the guy who saw all of the canals on Mars.
Hey, those canals are there... John Carter told me so!No, I agree with you. There are different things going on in the construction shot that I can't see in the other photo, and then there are new things. Like the window below the torpedo launchers, for example.LOL Yeah I noticed those and thought that was kind of cool.
Can't wait to see the new model, next to the old. If you could, make note of the changes you make (relating to studying screen caps etc.) That would be very interesting and helpful. Even little details.
I've been trying to conjure up some orthos, and this thing has me clueless...
it's like they keep changing things every time they rendered it...
maybe I just really need to go to lenscrafters and get some damn glasses.
-=MadMan=-
"Like the window below the torpedo launchers, for example.
I just got that.
Probably alot of what I tried to draw isn't even there.
Like the guy who saw all of the canals on Mars.
Nope, there is no window on the model.
Maybe they used the gaffer's tape from the bridge to cover it up.
There is no window, just a standard viewer as far as I can tell. A very reflective viewer that reflects all those blinding little lights. Abrams does have a hard-on for glare.
