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Just rechecked: my riding is the one where the Liberal just squeezed by the PQ by 14 votes. Will definitely be a recount (as there should with such a close margin). But right now, our house has provided 4 of those 14 votes. If she pulls off the upset, I expect to receive my monthly bottle of fine single malt whisky. The good stuff. Just like the good old days. 😉https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the-maple-leaf-lounge.293383/reply
I don’t usually quote myself but the recount is in and the Liberal did carry the riding—by TEN votes (four from our house). I expect a bottle every two weeks. 😉

No provincial Liberal has carried this riding going back to the 1994 election. That’s ten years before I moved into the riding.
 
Voted in our municipal election advanced polls today. Ended up strategic voting for the person who I thought had the best chance to beat the person who I really, really don't want to win, rather than the person who I would have actually preferred to win.

FPTP has got to go.
 
Voted in our municipal election advanced polls today. Ended up strategic voting for the person who I thought had the best chance to beat the person who I really, really don't want to win, rather than the person who I would have actually preferred to win.

FPTP has got to go.

if trudeau had delivered on a fairly easy election promise and appointed a competent minister we could have gotten rid of it at the federal level at least.

my wife and I used the city's online voting for casting our ballots.

our incumbent mayor wasn't running again (didn't vote for him last time and wasn't going to vote for him this time).

mayoral candidates with a very strong left (almost socialist) were an automatic nope as were those with ties to the real--estate industry (seem to much corruption when builders and poiticians mix). Doubly so when one has ties to our former conservative mp who's nasty piece for work.

but had a good option in a middle of the road candidate with managment experience, can work well with both sides and trusting the judgement of a friend of my wife who's his campaign manager.

hopefully one of my ward councillors will go. he's an idiot and at one point had the bright idea of giving weed and beer to the homeless community till it was pointed out that would be illegal.
 
if trudeau had delivered on a fairly easy election promise and appointed a competent minister we could have gotten rid of it at the federal level at least.

Oh, I don’t even have to bring Trudeau into this. We had electoral reform until Doug Ford legislated it out of existence in 2020. So I can just blame Ford directly.

my wife and I used the city's online voting for casting our ballots.

That would be a nice option, but we don’t have anything like that yet.
 
You know, I don't know how long ago this happened, but I just heard that Trump apparently had a phone call where he asked Carney to step aside, ie to resign in order for someone he would consider more reasonable and malleable to enter the picture. This is bad enough that Carney sent his foreign minister to Washington to tell the White House that under no uncertain terms would this ever happen and that it would be considered foreign interference in our democracy, and that they would go to the U.N if they have to.


Again, no idea how long ago this happened, but I do find it interesting how the American Administration likes to tell Canada not to interfere, when in reality it is them that try to interfere in our politics, and this is not an isolated incident if you again count the Republican money poured into the Trucker Convoy. This has become bigger than just a trade war crossing lines into interference.

That would be a nice option, but we don’t have anything like that yet.

Yeah, I don't think many municipalities have online voting as it requires too much infrastructure. There was one time, in 2018, when our local municipality did try and it dragged us down into a scandal when the system went down for over a day and prevented us from getting results during election night. It stands to reason that during an election, systems should be absolutely prepared for the influx of activity that it would get during an election night, so I'm not sure why the company behind it wasn't more prepared or were even surprised when it went down due to an increase in activity. I mean, you should stress test these systems, no? That scandal was enough for our municipality to back out from doing any future online voting.
 
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Yeah, I don't think many municipalities have online voting as it requires too much infrastructure. There was one time, in 2018, when our local municipality did try and it dragged us down into a scandal when the system went down for over a day and prevented us from getting results during election night. It stands to reason that during an election, systems should be absolutely prepared for the influx of activity that it would get during an election night, so I'm not sure why the company behind it wasn't more prepared or were even surprised when it went down due to an increase in activity. I mean, you should stress test these systems, no? That scandal was enough for our municipality to back out from doing any future online voting.

no idea on what the city's infrastructure is behind (possible a big chunk of it is outsourced) but this the is the second municipal election that it's been an option.

could be it's more of an option with smaller (under 100,000 people) municipalities but it's also open for 2 weeks before polling day which can negate oh shit load levels.
 
could be it's more of an option with smaller (under 100,000 people) municipalities but it's also open for 2 weeks before polling day which can negate oh shit load levels.

Ironically, I'd think it would be the bigger communities that need it more than the smaller ones. But maybe they figured the larger communities more easily overwhelm the system. I think we'd be considered a mid-sized city, but due to its zoning, we have 12 wards, which technically makes it the largest city by land area, due to just how spread out we are as a city via the 2001 Amalagamation.
 
For us that’s the city of Saguenay, larger in surface area than something like 30 different countries. A dumb idea.


Yeah, and I agree. Because in the end, what happens is that city resources end up being spread too thin over a larger area, and it has been a struggle for certain wards to get the funding they need for basic services such as road maintenance if they are in more of outlying areas.

An example of how this plays out was after the big snowstorm earlier this year that caused our city to come to a standstill due to the record snowfall, it took from several days up to a week for certain communities to be plowed, and another entire week for the communities further out, making it a total of two weeks for some.

Our city was forced into this via a Federal mandate in 2001, which it was also doing to other communities at that time, with the understanding that it would end up saving the government some money. Sometimes things sound better on paper than they do in reality, and this is likely one of those things, because the lay of the land and the area that the entire city now encompasses gives the city some unique challenges that I don't feel other communities are experiencing. At our heart, we still feel like a mid-sized city that has to support the infrastructure of much bigger city.
 
Weren't the 2001 amalgamations done provincially, under the Mike Harris government, not federally? Municipalities fall under provincial jurisdiction, at least in Ontario, anyway.
yep - local government is a provicial creation/exists at the whim of provincial legislation (and that's not unique to Canada).

my wife's home town recently had a commiseration for the 25th anniversary of amalgamation and her parents were mayor for 9 years of that time. One parent was mayor for 3 years (before councils moved to 4 term years) and the other 6 (first deputy mayor and then completed the mayor's term and was elected in their own right at the next election).
 
Happy Thanksgiving, Canada.

(I just saw this topic and thought it was for the Amtrak train that goes from Toronto to NYC, because it's called the Maple Leaf train.)
 
Weren't the 2001 amalgamations done provincially, under the Mike Harris government, not federally? Municipalities fall under provincial jurisdiction, at least in Ontario, anyway.


Oh yeah, my bad. I meant provincially. My fingers for some reason typed out the other thing. Either way, it's been a pain ever since it happened and there are several reasons showing that amalgamation has not worked out positively for us.
 
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