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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Avro Arrow, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. wayoung

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    The pizzeria delissio line was the best, especially when you added your own garlic & herbs & hot sauce to it.
     
  2. Owain Taggart

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    Yeah, we tried them recently and weren't impressed. They might be fine for two people maybe, but try feeding a family of 3 adults with them. I hope a better brand and solution comes around, because it feels inadequate at the moment.
     
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  3. PoorSailorsAirline

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    The Kleenex thing is bizarre on first blush, but I see this as almost parallel with C-18 (the social media news-for-pay bill). I know there are US brands that avoid Canada due to hassles like separate licensing regimes, certainly the bilingual packaging, different tax regime, etc. etc. etc. Canada stood up to Meta and they didn't blink. We're used to punching above our weight on the global stage, but as an economic market...we're a pretty high-cost place for a very spread-out, often lower yielding market. Particularly with other brands in the market in their fold, perhaps the manufacturer ran the numbers and figured it took more money to keep the products to Canadian standards vs. the revenue from Canadian point-of-sale. We saw it happen to Target and Nordstrom, we're seeing it now with newsrooms vs. Meta vs. executives vs. users vs. vs. vs. (jeez I wouldn't want to be in that market myself), and I won't be surprised to see more brands streamline and retreat from separate Canadian units as costs rise.
     
  4. Owain Taggart

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    But they're a global brand. Every market would have their own idiosyncrasies they have to deal with if they want to compete on a global scale. It's just how the world works. It doesn't really make much sense to pull out as they are, especially seeing as kleenex is so well-known and synonymous with tissue paper.
     
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  5. PoorSailorsAirline

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    Good point, I hadn't thought that one far enough through. I'd say it's because Canada and the USA often get lumped together as one market in a lot of sectors, but then as you say it begs the question of labelling products for Mexico. The EU seems pretty universal, but heaven only knows what regulations the UK might come up with as they try to decide what Brexit means. And I've zero clue what happens in the APEC, ASEAN, RCEP countries, and so on.

    Maybe they're just trying to streamline brands in principle for cost and flexibility? Either way I know when allergy season comes around in the spring, I'm going to be miserably asking "someone please get me a Kleenex!" not "someone please bring me a Scott facial tissue!" :guffaw:
     
  6. Owain Taggart

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    Not to mention that in the U.S, products often are in English and Spanish, which isn't entirely dissimilar how products are in English and French here. Every country is going to have its own bumps and difficulties due to different regulations. If every global brand were to balk at some of those regulations, there wouldn't be very many that could claim to be global.

    This kind of reminds me of when Heinz announced they were closing their ketchup factory in Canada. There was a huge uproar over it and the loss of jobs. French's then stepped in with a ketchup production of their own, using the same factory, I believe. When that proved popular, Heinz came back.

     
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  7. wayoung

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    Hershey is coming back to its old Smiths Falls plant
     
  8. DEWLine

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  9. Avro Arrow

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    It's finally happened!

    Yes, Juice Media has actually released an Honest Government Ad for Canada! This is both hilarious and scathing, as is their way. And as usual for the Honest Government Ads, there is NSFW language, so mind where you play it, if that is a concern.

     
  10. wayoung

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  11. DEWLine

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    Did they ever stop?
     
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  13. wayoung

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    Bank of Canada deputy governor made a speech stating unusually large and frequent corporate price hikes in necessary industries (such as food, Galen) as being responsible for inflation and that those price hikes are why the interest rate increases have not had the expected effect. "Competitors" expecting other competitors to raise prices, so increasing them themselves, may be creating a feedback loop. BoC now needs to re-evaluate it's game plan because of these price increases.

    Economic experts are taking this speech as an attack on corporate gouging by food, automobile industries.

    Speech coverage:

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/frequen...ng-to-sticky-inflation-boc-official-1.1979582

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    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/rate-hi...y-corporate-price-setting-economist-1.1979752

    I got these links from CTV. Apparently thanks to all their cutting of newsrooms they can't report on it themselves, and are quote tweeting Bloomberg instead :rolleyes:


    What thread was it where people were saying that if people stopped shoplifting inflation would go away, and Loblaws posting different content amounts on things like chips than were actually in the bag is fine, because you shouldn't eat chips anyway?
     
  14. Marc

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    they really employ bright columnists at the toronto sun.

    brian lilley is wanting to know why ndp doesn't bring down the trudeau govt.

    perhaps if he stepped away from the keyboard for a moment it would come to him.

    the ndp had the moment has a chance to get some of it's agenda through (such as the pharmacare bill that they rejected the 1st draft of).

    If the tories win the next election, the ndp becomes irrelevant and things such as the pharma and dental care will be deader than brian mulroney's political career.
     
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  15. Avro Arrow

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    Happy Thanksgiving, all!
     
  16. DEWLine

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    Thanks. I think it went well for me and mine.
     
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  17. Avro Arrow

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  18. Marc

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    been on the cbc news with moe & co trotting out the bs line that this is what parents have been asking for.

    and pushing the bullshit line that the teachers are pushing and trans agenda.

    no kids are going to the teachers for support and counselling because the teacher won't kick them out of home for being LGTBQ2+
     
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  19. Ríu ríu chíu

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    Unfortunately it looks like it may be awhile before Law & Order: Toronto will be broadcast in the US :wah: so if any of you manage to catch an episode, please tell me if it's any good...
     
  20. Owain Taggart

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    Meanwhile, I'd suggest taking a look at Cardinal, if you haven't already. It's a Nordic-noir style mystery series set in Northern Ontario.