The Maple Leaf Lounge

[Marc]

The curling commentary won’t be the same with Vic Rauter announcing his retirement.

Enjoyed his commentary because he both had what he’s learned from 40 years commentating and his ability to worth with co-commentators.

He’s so far ahead of rob faulds on sports net it’s not funny.

Doesn’t do autographs though.

My wife went on a seek, locate, can you please sign my book when the Scotties was in Kingston in the early 2010s and she got Russ Howard’s but not Vic’s.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I actually respect that. I'm not one to gush over someone, even in a public setting, and I tend to shy over if I encounter celebs. I tend feel uncomfortable asking for autographs, so I can understand someone not wanting to do them.

 

[Marc]

I actually respect that. I'm not one to gush over someone, even in a public setting, and I tend to shy over if I encounter celebs. I tend feel uncomfortable asking for autographs, so I can understand someone not wanting to do them.

They were in commentary booth and it was during a break so it’s not like she went up to him on the street.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Yeah, I'd personally be bothered by that, but that's just me. I've come across celebs before out of pure coincidence. One was the guy who used to host Madly Off in All Directions on CBC and they asked me to take their picture with someone else, and another time , in the same place, were the Arrogant Worms, and another was CBC's Bob MacDonald.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Nice to see an American appreciate Canada's contributions. We are always doing more than our fair share of contributing, but NATO's spending target doesn't show this as this guy explains.

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[Marc]

So another federal tory has jumped ship to liberals.

However given the tinfoil conspiracy crap out of her mouth during the pandemic (pretty much the only other time I can recall she's really made the news outside of her riding), Carney should say "thanks but that's a hard no thanks".

Longtime Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu crosses floor to join Liberals

The Sarnia—Lambton—Bkejwanong MP’s seat hands Carney a majority whether or not Liberals win the Quebec riding of Terrebonne in Monday’s byelections.

www.thestar.com

 

[Set Harth]

However given the tinfoil conspiracy crap out of her mouth during the pandemic

She was right the first time, it was her forced recantation that was counterfactual crap.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Poor Polievre, can't even keep his own party together. The only thing he's successfully managed to do is drive away his own party members! Admittedly, switching teams can also backfire. I remember when an NDP Federal member who shall remain nameless not only walked the floor over to the Liberals, but went from Federal level, to the Provincial level to be under Wynne's cabinet. There was some controversy at the time as there were allegations that the then current Liberal candidate was asked to widthdraw his nomination in exchange for a job within the cabinet in order for the floor switcher to take his place, and people in his constituency were not very happy with him after his switching, and I can say that he didn't last all that long after that and the floor switching ended up undoing all the goodwill he'd made beforehand.

 

[Marc]

Poor Polievre, can't even keep his own party together. The only thing he's successfully managed to do is drive away his own party members! Admittedly, switching teams can also backfire. I remember when an NDP Federal member who shall remain nameless not only walked the floor over to the Liberals, but went from Federal level, to the Provincial level to be under Wynne's cabinet. There was some controversy at the time as there were allegations that the then current Liberal candidate was asked to widthdraw his nomination in exchange for a job within the cabinet in order for the floor switcher to take his place, and people in his constituency were not very happy with him after his switching, and I can say that he didn't last all that long after that and the floor switching ended up undoing all the goodwill he'd made beforehand.

according the star, nearly 40 tory mps are scared of becoming jobless if an election takes place anytime and rumours and that there might be motion within the party to toss poilievre as leader.

they could damned either way if the tories don't get a new leader. stay with the party and lose their seats at the next election or jump ship and risk them.

but if the liberals get a majority, then Carney has no excuse for an early election. we need stability and that what a majority will bring.

poilievere's bleating about there should be a by-elections is typical but I doubt anyone with a modicum of sense would believe he wouldn't be doing exactly the same if the roles were reverse.

also there were 3 floor crossings to the tories when harper was P.M including one right after the 2006 election (minority govt) and he left the liberals and went straight on to the tory front bench.

Finally I'm wondering if we'll see any one jumping ship from the ndp given their recently choice for party leader.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I have to admit, I find this one kind of surprising. It kind of made sense that the more old-school Progressive Conservatives would feel at home in Carney's version of the LPC. But I thought Gladu was more socially conservative, which I wouldn't think was necessarily a good fit.

Although... when Gladu ran for the CPC leadership, she did seem to centre the climate crisis, which a lot of the CPC seem to believe isn't even real. So I guess maybe things aren't as clear-cut in her case. Although I believe her feelings about abortion would have immediately disqualified her from a place in the Liberal tent under Trudeau.

rumours and that there might be motion within the party to toss poilievre as leader.

Oh no, what a shame that would be. /s

If it does happen, it will be interesting to see where the party goes. Do they elect a more progressive conservative to try to stop the bleeding to the Liberals, and risk losing their rabid right flank to the PPC? Or do they double down and pick someone even further to the right than Poilievre? As much as I'd prefer the first one, I'm guessing the second one is more likely.

 

[Owain Taggart]

according the star, nearly 40 tory mps are scared of becoming jobless if an election takes place anytime and rumours and that there might be motion within the party to toss poilievre as leader.

That might be an advantage. I think ever since he took over as leader they've been having nothing but setbacks. So, one might as well learn that you can't lead with the kind of rhetoric he uses as it's not effective.

poilievere's bleating about there should be a by-elections is typical but I doubt anyone with a modicum of sense would believe he wouldn't be doing exactly the same if the roles were reverse.

He's a chronic complainer is what he is. He'll go on the attack yet will never offer alternatives. I feel like if he were actually elected, he would never have a gameplan.

 

[Marc]

If it does happen, it will be interesting to see where the party goes. Do they elect a more progressive conservative to try to stop the bleeding to the Liberals, and risk losing their rabid right flank to the PPC? Or do they double down and pick someone even further to the right than Poilievre? As much as I'd prefer the first one, I'm guessing the second one is more likely.

The problem is they really don't have anyone else but it would be nice to see a more moderate PC leader who's not as beholden to a small group of interests out of Alberta.

sadly I can't see the hard right of the progressive conservatives taking it well.

 

[Ovation]

Poilievre was against any policy that would block floor crossings earlier in his career so he has little to stand on now. Also, unlike many floor crossings in the past, not one crosser has been offered a cabinet post or any other position above standard MP by Carney. As for Gladu, her sole purpose will be to secure a majority—don’t imagine for one second that any of her personal positions that are counter to the mainstream Liberal positions will be given any consideration.

I’m not especially sanguine about gaining a majority in this fashion but these are not ordinary times. Two things are paramount—stability in government and NO POILIEVRE as PM.

 

[Avro Arrow]

As for Gladu, her sole purpose will be to secure a majority—don’t imagine for one second that any of her personal positions that are counter to the mainstream Liberal positions will be given any consideration.

I guess there was enough concern out there that Carney felt compelled to make a statement about it.

Carney says floor-crossing MPs must support Liberal values on abortion, LGBTQ rights

OTTAWA - Any member of Parliament who joins the Liberal caucus must adhere to Liberal values, including support for abortion and LGBTQ rights, Prime Minister Mark Carney said Thursday as

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

It's good to see them say that, but I'm still not convinced it's a great look for the party to accept someone like Gladu into it.

NO POILIEVRE as PM

Amen. I'm actually not really a fan of half the things Carney's been doing (and the other half, I love), but the further Poilievre is from any kind of actual power, the happier I am.