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Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

He'd stopped screaming and was clearly not in the land of the living anymore...and that was BEFORE he got flung out the window of a 100+ story building on a planet that's 100% covered in pavement (read: soft landings aren't a thing.) ...And he'd just been electrocuted in his face...a lot...AND was freshly missing a limb or two.

On a scale of "defiantly not dead" to "deader than tank-tops" Mace was at about a 9.999999 last we saw him. Boba was at a 2 or 3 tops.
We didn't see a body. And only missing one limb. Fett was sucked in to the gullet of a monster. I put him at 4 and Windu at a 6.
There there. Just relax and have a cookie while the rest of us have fun with our entertainment. You know about fun? It's a thing you do with make belive stories about space wizards and super-commandos!
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Din Djarin was sucked into the gullet of the monster that ate the monster whose gullet Boba Fett found himself sucked into and he managed to find his way out using the same armor. Seriously, this episode set up everything Boba Fett would have needed to escape the sarlacc and then some.
 
Din Djarin was sucked into the gullet of the monster that ate the monster whose gullet Boba Fett found himself sucked into and he managed to find his way out using the same armor. Seriously, this episode set up everything Boba Fett would have needed to escape the sarlacc and then some.
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I have made my feelings known on this matter. This episode could have sent me a 1 million dollars and I would have rejected it on principle. Set up means nothing when I see it adding nothing to the lore to bring a character back.

It was stupid when I read it in the books, it was stupid when I read it in the comics and that feeling continues on to this day. I feel like a broken record at this point, as though somehow if the show breaks it down for me in some magical way it will convince that Fett's return is good for the lore. I don't know how to be more clear.:shrug::shrug:
 
Ok, this was really good. Loved the hardcore Western tone. Very townfolk and native with Mos Pelgo and the Tuskens. Cobb Vanth was delightful. And looked fantastic in the armor. I was honestly surprised he wasn't made an honorary Mando at the end, and left with the armor.

In any other show, it would have ended with him leaving Cobb the armor. But, sadly, Din Jarin has to be utterly humorless when it comes to following his dumbass Mando code.

I would have far preferred it if there was no return of Fett. His armor was salvaged from his corpse and now belongs to a frontier lawman on the ass-end of Tatooine, portrayed by none other than Raylen Givens.
 
As someone who was very underwhelmed by the first season, I thought this episode was pretty great.

I have plenty of nitpicks, but there was also quite a lot to like here.

While I complained about the short run time for most of Season 1's episodes, this one actually dragged a little bit. They could have easily cut 5 minutes for tighter pacing. A little bit of Mando talking to Tuskens goes a long way, we didn't need so many scenes of that.

Come on, there's no way Mando wouldn't have been seriously messed up from the dragon's stomach acid, which was literally liquifying Tuskens. His armor only covers a small part of his body, at least his friggin cape and scarf should have been in tatters.

I've had more than my fill of Tatooine at this point, but thankfully they found a clever new spin on it and the easter eggs were cute and felt organic, as opposed to in-your-face.

Loved the opening Gamorrean fight and the scary urban planetscape. That felt like a fresh take for SW that we hadn't seen before in a planet.

I was glad to see Baby Yoda on the sidelines here, as I'm not really a huge fan of the character.

Mando himself remains a frustratingly one note character most of the time, but when he's paired up with cool guest stars like Cobb Vanth, I can forgive it.

I've also made peace with the fact that this is going to be a very, VERY loosely serialized show with mostly standalone episodes. It is what it is.

The episode was tonally/thematically a little too similar to "shrimp farmers fight an AT ST" from last season, so it'd be best if they left those particular tropes alone for, well, for the rest of the series. We get it, it's a western/samurai thing, but you've done it twice now. Move on.

All in all, a lot of fun despite some minor flaws. Easily one of the series' best episodes to date.

More like this would be great!
 
Major spoilers follow.... Episode 1 of season 2.


I loved seeing the flash back to when the "second" death star blew up but was Tatooine occupied by the Empire? I imagined it was a dust ball of little interest to the Empire and controlled by crime lords like Jabba. Luke and crew must have had a hard time getting back there because in Return of the Jedi there wasn't any mention of it.

That was weird to me, too. It seemed like Tatooine had no imperial presence except the troopers that were specifically sent down from the SD to recover the droids.

In deleted scenes, Luke even says, "the empire wouldn't even bother to fight to protect Tatooine." or some such thing.

But then I remembered that Lucas put in all those dorky victory celebrations in the Special Edition of ROTJ. And, yeah, one of 'em was a huge party on Tatooine after the fall of the Empire.

So I guess those dust farmers and sand jockeys were all pretty politically active after all.
 
That was weird to me, too. It seemed like Tatooine had no imperial presence except the troopers that were specifically sent down from the SD to recover the droids.

In deleted scenes, Luke even says, "the empire wouldn't even bother to fight to protect Tatooine." or some such thing.

But then I remembered that Lucas put in all those dorky victory celebrations in the Special Edition of ROTJ. And, yeah, one of 'em was a huge party on Tatooine after the fall of the Empire.

So I guess those dust farmers and sand jockeys were all pretty politically active after all.
In EU materials the Imperial governor is pretty much a corrupt official who is paid off or threatened to let the Hutts keep working, while the Imperial presence was centered in Bestine and pretty much kept to itself, aside from occasional police work.
 
That was weird to me, too. It seemed like Tatooine had no imperial presence except the troopers that were specifically sent down from the SD to recover the droids.
Wasn't there like three or four years between ANH and ROTJ? Plenty of time for them to decide a base was worthwhile after all.
 
I quite liked and enjoyed the episode, but after reading these comments, uh, I supposedly shouldn't have? :shrug:
 
I quite liked and enjoyed the episode, but after reading these comments, uh, I supposedly shouldn't have? :shrug:
I think people just want a little more. While I liked the story I hope we follow some other story threads down the line like Gideon’s.
 
We didn't see a body. And only missing one limb.
Sure we did. What do you think went flying out that window? The very dead body of Mace Windu. You think Palpatine wouldn't have waited until he was dead before kicking him out the building? Where would be the fun in that?

Fett was sucked in to the gullet of a monster.
...swallowed whole by a creature that takes a millennia to complete a bowl movement, while wearing a heavily armed and cunningly equipped acid-proof suit, right before a sail barge blew up in it's face.

I'm just saying, is it really that far out of the realm of possibility that they might pull a switcheroo on us?
How? Rex and all the other clones that survived would look much older by this point. If Jango had a secret twin brother he'd look even older.

I think people just want a little more. While I liked the story I hope we follow some other story threads down the line like Gideon’s.
They have all season to get into that; premiers are meant to open with a splash and be accessible to anyone picking it up for the first time. Job done.
 
How? Rex and all the other clones that survived would look much older by this point. If Jango had a secret twin brother he'd look even older.
I dunno, I don't have a solid theory just shooting the poop. If the only other option is a clone, there were a bunch of new clones seen in Ep III, so they're several years younger than Rex?
 
I dunno, I don't have a solid theory just shooting the poop. If the only other option is a clone, there were a bunch of new clones seen in Ep III, so they're several years younger than Rex?
Pretty sure any second or third wave clones that didn't get sent out to the front lines during the war would have been pulped when Palpatine stood the clones down and cancelled and future orders. Even so, it's been around 30-35 years since AotC so at 2x growth acceleration even the newly decanted infants would look like they're 60-70 years old at this point. Also what kind of BS coincidence would it be to have some random clone survivor hanging around Boba's armor?

The meta-narrative context alone makes it obvious.
 
Quite right. True Star Wars fans have made it quite clear that if you're a real fanniemacfanfan you are by the international laws of Star Wars not allowed to enjoy this. You must hate it, otherwise you're not a fan.
...Thank you (ripping the True Stars Fan card)
 
But then I remembered that Lucas put in all those dorky victory celebrations in the Special Edition of ROTJ. And, yeah, one of 'em was a huge party on Tatooine after the fall of the Empire.
Ah damn it! Bloody special editions strike again....

OK, another question. Where the heck is everyone? We visited Tatooine this season and the first season and it sure is quiet as hell there now to how it used to be. Where did those crowds go? Why are the streets not filled with bustle like ANH or TPM? Why is the cantina so somber?

We didn't see a body. And only missing one limb.
I'm with you Louise. No body, just missing an arm. I really enjoyed those One Armed Swordsman movies and really, we need to see Sam Jackson own the character more.
 
OK, another question. Where the heck is everyone? We visited Tatooine this season and the first season and it sure is quiet as hell there now to how it used to be. Where did those crowds go? Why are the streets not filled with bustle like ANH or TPM? Why is the cantina so somber?

This is all explained at the start of the episode - this is a largely abandoned mining town that has been forgotten by most people. Did you nod off or something?
 
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