Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

[TRON JA307020]

That's a bullshit standard.

Doesn’t matter. It’s true. If it wasn’t for the original series we wouldn’t have Star Wars. The original series is the best. The sequels are poor carbon copies of basically the same story with frankly boring characters. We got a crap remake of far superior films. TLJ mimicked TESB by having a chase through space. Like that idiot Johnson thought he could make a better space chase then what we saw in TESP It was boring as hell. Not nearly as cool as watching those crystal clear star destroyers going after the falcon. Instead we got a cgi muddled Mess over stuffed slow chase scene. Oh yeah and the holdo destroying half their fleet by going to hyperspace. Lol

 

[Xerxes82]

Yeah, the Grogu moment was a lot more significant in context. The creed says don't remove your Mandalorian armor helmet in front of others. An appropriated Imperial Remnant helmet that wasn't even his to begin with doesn't count the same way, and like Ithekro said he needed to in order to access the computer terminal and learn the location of Moff Gideon's ship. One was necessity and allowed him to exercise a loophole without violating the code. The other was to express his love for Grogu and say Goodbye.

I don't think that level of technicality enters into it, personally. Din doesn't strike me as the lawyerly, "well, actually, in the fine print" kind of guy.

The big difference is that last week he really had no choice. He was desperate, backed into a corner, and forced to choose between his beliefs and someone he loved. He chose to bend his faith, and took his helmet off.

This week, however, was a completely voluntary and avoidable situation. He didn't have to take his helmet off, there was absolutely no pressing need, no goal to be achieved, no sense of desperation or urgency. He just... wanted to. To have that moment with Grogu, to connect with another in such a meaningful way. Just as it's an entirely different level of intimacy, a room full of strangers versus the child you've risked so much for, it's an entirely different calculus of faith.

Last season, he was willing to die, FROM AN OBVIOUSLY COMPLETELY TREATABLE WOUND, rather than violate his creed. (Seriously, he's back up and in fighting form within minutes after IG-11 treats him with bacta spray. It was the equivalent of an athlete getting his or her knee or ankle taped and getting back out there.)

I find this evolution fascinating, and very Star Wars. So much of Star Wars is about family, the search for it or the defense of it or the longing for it. Din Djarin had his faith. Maybe that was all he really had. No friends worth the name, just a wanderer without a purpose. But now he has something else, something that matters more to him than even that faith he was willing to die for. That's why I've come to really enjoy this character, and I can't wait to see what the PTB have in store for him moving forward.

 

[Gordie]

That moment with Grogu and Din removing his helmet is unforgettable. I cry just thinking about it.

It's interesting the affect Grogu has on everyone. When Din asks for help, everyone seems to be too busy with other responsibilities, but as soon as he mentions the kid they are off.

Even the so-called bad guys. Dr. Pershing completely sold out the Empire helping Din and crew with the info about the Dark Troopers. And as soon as Greef saw him he did a 180. Not that he was a true bad guy, just a man making a living, but he has flip flopped for sure,

 

[Tosk]

Maybe Grogu used a mind trick on them, even if he didn't know it.

 

[Tuskin38]

Boba is confirmed not to be season 3, but it is going to air before season 3, so it looks like season 3 is going to be in 2022

 

[Campe]

Per Facebook:

The Book of Boba Fett, a new Original Series, starring Temuera Morrison and Ming-Na Wen and executive produced by Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni and Robert Rodriguez, set within the timeline of The Mandalorian, is coming to Disney+ Dec. 2021.

Robert Rodriguez, huh?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

After seeing the ending for the 10th time or so, I wonder if the obvious reactions between Grogu and Artoo indicates Artoo was involved in getting Grogu out of the temple all those years ago. Does Artoo have a compartment ala: Bender?

 

[cooleddie74]

I suppose the slot where his third leg fits could be adapted to smuggle cargo the size of Grogu. If Grogu was even tinier at the time of the Jedi Purge then it could be even easier to get him out of the Temple.

 

[Tuskin38]

After seeing the ending for the 10th time or so, I wonder if the obvious reactions between Grogu and Artoo indicates Artoo was involved in getting Grogu out of the temple all those years ago. Does Artoo have a compartment ala: Bender?

Or maybe Grogu just thinks R2 is cute.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Or maybe Grogu just thinks R2 is cute.

Who doesn't, I ask you?

 

[FreezeC77]

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Jon Favreau confirms that the Book of Boba Fett is a spinoff and that season 3 of the mandalorian will take place right after ( not sure if he means season 3 will air after it or the story takes place after Boba's spinoff story even if both are releasing episodes same time). I kinda doubt Disney would have both airing the same time so prob former.

also said Mark Hamill was indeed on set and filmed.

 

[fireproof78]

Doesn’t matter. It’s true. If it wasn’t for the original series we wouldn’t have Star Wars. The original series is the best.

Is anyone here arguing the opposite? This is a strawman of a BS standard that somehow if the sequels or the prequels don't exceed the originals then they are bad?

I get that the sequels are not for everyone but people are lying to themselves if they think there are not people out there who genuinely enjoy the ST, who liked characters like Rey, Kylo, Finn and Poe and find them enjoyable additions to a franchise.

I don't want anyone to try and make the OT again, unless it is a full reboot. Just give me interesting characters in the SW universe. And that's what the ST is for me, warts and all.

Mileage will vary.

 

[Campe]

I can't remember. Are there button down shirts in the ST? Might explain a lot. I know that's a big deal for some.

 

[Gordie]

also said Mark Hamill was indeed on set and filmed.

Yes, he confirmed it on Twitter recently.

 

[JD]

TLJ > Every other Star Wars made since 1983

I'm a bit fan of the sequels, but I still have to very strongly disagree. I enjoyed all three of the sequels, but the The Clone Wars, Rogue One, Rebels, and The Mandalorian all better. I'd probably put Solo about equal with the sequels. But this is like the difference between 8s and 9s out of 10 on a rating scale. As much as I like the movies, the TV stuff has been consistently better from about half way through TCW.

We definitely won’t be seeing Finn ever again. Lol. Mostly likely Poe will never be shown again. You’re favorite trio will never ever gain the significance of the originals because they just repeated their story. They weren’t first. Sorry but the sequels are done and no one cares to explore that era of Star Wars again.

They might not be as big as the Original Trilogy heroes, but there are very, very, very, very few characters in media that are ever going to become that iconic. The characters still have their fans, including me, and I have a feeling we will still see them again in some form, even if it's just in books and comics, and not on screen. If we do get a series set closer to the sequels, I fully expect to see Poe, or maybe one of the lower level supporting characters like Hondo, Maz, or Connix. Since we've lost her mother, I think it would be cool to see Billie Lourd get some bigger roles as a way to keep it in the family.

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Jon Favreau confirms that the Book of Boba Fett is a spinoff and that season 3 of the mandalorian will take place right after ( not sure if he means season 3 will air after it or the story takes place after Boba's spinoff story even if both are releasing episodes same time). I kinda doubt Disney would have both airing the same time so prob former.

also said Mark Hamill was indeed on set and filmed.

I'm a little confused by his comment about Mark Hamill being on set, everything else I saw said it was a body double, with Hamill just doing the voice.

 

[Kor]

I enjoyed the last episode. It made sense to bring Luke back. However, the "uncanny valley" still hasn't been crossed.

Kor

 

[Gordie]

You know I misspoke. Mark said he was involved, so he may not have been on set. Could have did the voice anywhere I suppose.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Can I just say that if 20 years ago someone told me D-Bop from Rudy would one day become the conservator of Star Wars, I would have laughed them out of the room.

 

[cooleddie74]

Deepfake would have gone a long way toward crossing that boundary but given how Disney and Lucasfilm likely invested a lot in the software to accomplish Luke I can't really blame them for doing it their own way and not taking the easy, "free" way out.

 

[Reverend]

Unsurprisingly, someone has already deepfaked the Luke scene. Honestly, it looks like a one step forward, two steps back kind of fix. The eyes look a lot more alive, but the flat lighting on the face makes the whole thing look detached from the body, and the matte line around the hair need a LOT more work.

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Like with the 'Rogue One' Takin and Leia scenes, it's also worth remembering that the deepfakes only look as good as they do because ILM already did all the heavy lifting by replicating the facial geometry. Trying to do that on the raw footage of the stand-in performers will yield much poorer results.