The Last of Us (HBO)
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sighhhh....fandom menace at it again
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-a...th-one-star-imdb-reviews-20230202-p5chh0.html
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-a...th-one-star-imdb-reviews-20230202-p5chh0.html
If the homophobes have a problem with two one off characters like Bill & Frank being gay, they're really gonna be pissed when they find out who else is gay. Would be a spoiler to say who? It obviously hasn't been revealed yet, but it's not a really a big shocking reveal, it jst hasn't come up yet.
Nice to know you find a 14 girl getting beaten funny.
God forbid we show a gay couple as normal people, just wanting to live their lives instead of the usual extreme extroverts who talk flamboyantly and wear outlandish clothes
If that is an agenda then bring it on.It was to be expected, especially if someone expected uberdude Ron Swanson only to find out Ron is gay.
I get the second part criticism though to a degree. As i read up after each episode on the differences between game and show it played out very differently but if had played the game i surely would have been as amazed by this episode as i am without the knowledge. I don't need nor do i want a 1:1 remake of a game or book, the mediums are different and it would be actually boring if the show would just refilm the cut scenes with actual actors.
They took the opportunity to take the show in a different direction and i love it, the fact that the writer of the game is also writing the show fills me with a high degree of optimism and that he and the producers made the call for the third episode to focus elsewhere both gave us a beautiful love story but also came back very nicely to Joel to tell us something about him.
Every reaction video i've seen of this episode is nothing but tears and the highest praise so who cares about a few homophobes and game purists.
Yes from what I understand though I never played the game. They are angry though because it wasn't played low key but instead had a whole episode focused on them. It's kind of pathetic because of how good the episode is. It is kind of interesting to notice how some of them do admit that the episode is good but it's almost like that bothers them more than if it was done badly.
It's like I said once about some of these people. They love it when they can pick on something that they might call woke but is also terrible from a more honest point of view. Ghostbusters 2016,Reva from Obi Wan etc because they know they can hide their bigoted feelings behind some truth thus giving them some unearned credibility. But then when something great comes along like this episode they got to stretch to find ways to complain about it.
I never played the game, & will never care how true to its source material this is, but seeing all these varied reactions, & all the fervor this episode has elicited has me thinking something I've been pondering about the show, & how its viewers, both pro & con, might have perhaps been thinking about it all wrong. This isn't really a zombie show. I mean we've had that show already. People fighting off the zombie hordes, how that fight affects those left alive etc...
They called it The Walking Dead, & it's double entendre is clear & present. This show is about The Last of Us. Its primary focus would seem to be about us coming to an end, what is to be lost in that, & how our much more tangibly real extinction could feel.
At this point, I think an episode like what we've just seen could be no better method for aligning the viewer with that sensibility. You feel heartbroken. You feel the beauty in the things we are soon to never have again. It's not a zombie monster schtick. This is a nuanced journey into extinction, & if that's the idea we're going in on, and more of this will play out similarly to how we were made to feel about it this last week, then I'm all in, because it's got a new perspective.
They called it The Walking Dead, & it's double entendre is clear & present. This show is about The Last of Us. Its primary focus would seem to be about us coming to an end, what is to be lost in that, & how our much more tangibly real extinction could feel.
At this point, I think an episode like what we've just seen could be no better method for aligning the viewer with that sensibility. You feel heartbroken. You feel the beauty in the things we are soon to never have again. It's not a zombie monster schtick. This is a nuanced journey into extinction, & if that's the idea we're going in on, and more of this will play out similarly to how we were made to feel about it this last week, then I'm all in, because it's got a new perspective.
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A couple of homosexuals depicted as actual human beings?
The horror, the horror.
Note: If they had made this episode with the identical plot but starring two attractive and feminine lesbians making out on the piano, these same folks would now be howling that this is a true masterpiece to be remembered for the ages.
Hypocrites.
The horror, the horror.
Note: If they had made this episode with the identical plot but starring two attractive and feminine lesbians making out on the piano, these same folks would now be howling that this is a true masterpiece to be remembered for the ages.
Hypocrites.
LoL! I had no idea I misspelled it. I’ll fix.
Valley Fever isn't usually that big of a deal, I heard a while back that ever person who has lived in Arizona for more than a few years has been exposed, and most of us don't even know.
Oh, that's not so bad then. Sorry, for the misunderstanding @thribs.
You know we might not have seen the last of Bill and Frank. At some point I suspect we will get some flashbacks with Joel's brother Tommy who might have meet with them. I also was thinking of them talking about making friends over the years and inviting people over.
It would be kind of interesting if Bill and Frank were like a connecting dot that impacts many of the characters on the show even beyond their death. Thinking sort of like Jack's father on "Lost" who we never saw alive in the present day. Only in flashbacks.
Plus I am thinking of the logic of using the already created city street set, complete with interiors as a means of saving money. Creating new locations every week has got to be a pretty expensive thing to do.
It would be kind of interesting if Bill and Frank were like a connecting dot that impacts many of the characters on the show even beyond their death. Thinking sort of like Jack's father on "Lost" who we never saw alive in the present day. Only in flashbacks.
Plus I am thinking of the logic of using the already created city street set, complete with interiors as a means of saving money. Creating new locations every week has got to be a pretty expensive thing to do.
It was a brilliant standalone - a touching and beautifully told story with a beginning, middle and end and that's it. Take DS9's Duet. Harris Yulin's turn as Marritza didn't need a follow up.
The key is Bill's letter. Coupled with Tess's final plea, it's what Joel needed to light a fire under him.
"So, I'm gonna tell you something because you're probably the only person who will understand. I used to hate the world, and I was happy when everyone died. But I was wrong because there was one person worth saving. That's what I did. I saved him. Then I protected him. That's why men like you and me are here. We have a job to do. And God help any mοthеrfսckеr who stand in our way."
It's very clever how they did it - not at all how it goes down in the game, but it gets Joel to the same place.
The key is Bill's letter. Coupled with Tess's final plea, it's what Joel needed to light a fire under him.
"So, I'm gonna tell you something because you're probably the only person who will understand. I used to hate the world, and I was happy when everyone died. But I was wrong because there was one person worth saving. That's what I did. I saved him. Then I protected him. That's why men like you and me are here. We have a job to do. And God help any mοthеrfսckеr who stand in our way."
It's very clever how they did it - not at all how it goes down in the game, but it gets Joel to the same place.
I doubt it, they're role in the story is done, and Tommy's been in Utah for a while, so I doubt he's dealt with them.
Unless one of them is 7 of 9
? What I'm missing here? There was some backlash?