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The Last Jedi trailer has 16.5 million views in less than 24 hours.

Marvel movies like star wars are a totally different animal from most franchises, even trek. Comparing box office totals there are pointless. The last 3 trek movies making more than the first 10 combined ($1.2 billion box office alone) is a better comparison.
 
Marvel movies like star wars are a totally different animal from most franchises, even trek. Comparing box office totals there are pointless. The last 3 trek movies making more than the first 10 combined ($1.2 billion box office alone) is a better comparison.

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The Last Jedi trailer has 16.5 million views in less than 24 hours.

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The Last Jedi trailer has 16.5 million views in less than 24 hours. Beyond teaser only has 18 mil after 1.5 years. Beyond trailer 2 only 1.5 mil after 10 months. I am saddened just how much the general populace doesn't care about Star Trek in comparison. I wish Star Trek could have its day in the big spotlight with that much popularity.
 
I think this is a hangover from the terrible way the Trek movies have been handled since Into Darkness, and arguably before that. Any momentum the series received from the 2009 film has been left for dead. It was like Paramount were trying to usher the franchise out the back door.
 
To be fair, that's was just a problem with Trek. Since the split, Paramount has handled just about every poorly. I have no idea about the legality of things, but I wonder if it won't be long before CBS finagles their way out of the contract and works directly with BR and a different distributor like Sony or (cough) The Mouse.
 
Since the split, Paramount has handled just about every poorly.
To be fair, Paramount is handling all their movies poorly these days. People spend too much time dwelling on how Beyond "underperformed" while forgetting that it was in fact the highest grossing Paramount film of 2016, and may even have done better than any of their 2017 movies have. Paramount also seems to have some delusional higher-ups, like one of their marketing people who blamed the flop of Baywatch on the bad reviews it got.

Oh well, they'll make a clean sweep next week with Transformers, I guess. No matter how many bad reviews those movies get, no matter how many people call those movies worthless lumps of shit they somehow pull in billions at the box office.
 
Yeah. That meant to read "Paramount has hand just about everything poorly." Meaning the company has been completely in the crapper. Of all the major studios, they're clearly at the bottom.
 
To be fair, that's was just a problem with Trek. Since the split, Paramount has handled just about every poorly. I have no idea about the legality of things, but I wonder if it won't be long before CBS finagles their way out of the contract and works directly with BR and a different distributor like Sony or (cough) The Mouse.
Not something very likely to happen, though, as both CBS Television and Paramount's parent Viacom are still under the majority control of Sumner Redstone's National Amusements, Inc. Although they're treated as different entities, the real separation between CBS and Paramount is as much a matter of accounting as it is anything.
 
It's almost like Disney has confidence in their product :eek:

Correlation and causation, they could have spent 20 Billion more and not have gotten any larger audience. People nejoyed the feel of Episode VII (even if the plot is an empty rehash of what's already been done once or twice before)... like reading a 15 chapter book and when you get to chapter 10 and you remember they did the same stuff, sometimes word for word, in chapter 6, you know you're still being ripped off?
 
Correlation and causation, they could have spent 20 Billion more and not have gotten any larger audience. People nejoyed the feel of Episode VII (even if the plot is an empty rehash of what's already been done once or twice before)... like reading a 15 chapter book and when you get to chapter 10 and you remember they did the same stuff, sometimes word for word, in chapter 6, you know you're still being ripped off?
I could not disagree more. I don't find TFA a rip off, and I also think that Paramount could have promoted Star Trek Beyond better.

I don't follow your meaning at all, so agree to disagree on this point.
 
The thing is, Star Trek: Beyond felt like Star Trek. Like something had been missing the previous few films (perhaps even more than a few films), but this one felt right for some reason. IN a similar vein, TFA and RO both feel like Star Wars, like the people making are paying attention and know what they are doing. We will see if TLJ and the Han Solo film keep a similar feeling, but with the previous two films along with the recent cartoons, it seems like Lucasfilm and Disney know what they are doing.
 
The thing is, Star Trek: Beyond felt like Star Trek. Like something had been missing the previous few films (perhaps even more than a few films), but this one felt right for some reason. IN a similar vein, TFA and RO both feel like Star Wars, like the people making are paying attention and know what they are doing. We will see if TLJ and the Han Solo film keep a similar feeling, but with the previous two films along with the recent cartoons, it seems like Lucasfilm and Disney know what they are doing.
I guess that's for other folks. ST 09 and ID always felt like Star Trek to me, and that Abrams and company knew what they were doing, even if some of the execution good have been done better.

Also, I'll generally disagree that RO felt like Star Wars. It fits well, but it definitely has an unusual feel.
 
I'll admit it, I'm actually shocked.

That article says the Chinese box office was strong, but even that has turned out not to be true. The Last Knight dropped 86% on the second weekend in China, putting it in the top ten of second weekend drop offs of all time. (Usual drop offs are something like 60%.)
 
At this rate TLK won't get even close to Beyonds 158m domestic total. And might even struggle to make it to 600m ww - an all time low for TF!:eek:
 
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If anything, doesn't this increase the likeliness of a fourth Kelvin movie? After all, Beyond actually did make Paramount some money, which is more than the rest of their 2016 movies or any of their 2017 movies did.
 
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