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The Kelvin is a two nacelled ship.

I have done no capturing attempts yet, but I distinctly remember a snippet where those "fighter shuttles" streak past the Kelvin, and the thing atop the saucer has a blue-glowing end facing the camera.

However, I simply assumed the ship was upside down in that shot...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Timo said:
I have done no capturing attempts yet, but I distinctly remember a snippet where those "fighter shuttles" streak past the Kelvin, and the thing atop the saucer has a blue-glowing end facing the camera.

However, I simply assumed the ship was upside down in that shot...

Timo Saloniemi
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That would be the deflector dish. ;)
 
Okay, in that case, the ship is not upside down but instead is facing the camera (even though the attack shuttles are facing an enemy that comes from the rear, while the 'caps shown here demonstrate that Nero's space octopus approaches from the bow).

Timo Saloniemi
 
Timo said:
Okay, in that case, the ship is not upside down but instead is facing the camera (even though the attack shuttles are facing an enemy that comes from the rear, while the 'caps shown here demonstrate that Nero's space octopus approaches from the bow).

Timo Saloniemi
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The shuttles are retreating/escaping, I think...

Last min evac before the ship does an kamikaze run into the Space Oct?
 
At any rate it is weird and we will definitely find out when the movie arrives at the local movie house.From that capture i took it looks,to me,that on the bottom is the main hull directly center below the saucer.Bridge on top of the saucer,then the one nacelle above curving to the right.I don't know it's late and i need to go to bed.
You know now that i'm looking at it again,that could be the deflector on top,and i don't think that the ship is upside down there.Weird that it goes "up" at an angle,however.
 
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The Kelvin is a Multi-part's and piece's ship.....now...

PoorUSSKelvin.jpg

Nice to see that the ASTROGATOR is still around. (see black square bottom middle)

BTW: Dosen't it appear that there are a whole lot more starship part's and piece's floating around than can be accounted for by just the USS Kelvin??
 
daveyNY said:
The Kelvin is a Multi-part's and piece's ship.....now...

PoorUSSKelvin.jpg

Nice to see that the ASTROGATOR is still around. (see black square bottom middle)

BTW: Dosen't it appear that there are a whole lot more starship part's and piece's floating around than can be accounted for by just the USS Kelvin??
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Do we even know the Kelvin's in the same timeframe as the Enterprise? I thought not.
 
Spoilers for what is actually being seen

Supposedly, multiple starships are summoned to save Vulcan from a natural disaster of some sort. This is why Kirk and other such junior folks are being shuttled to starships here. The Enterprise is among the last to arrive, and finds out that the "natural disaster" was a devious trap, and Admiral Ackbar's ship and perhaps a dozen others have been destroyed and are forming a pretty ring around Vulcan.

Now, what ship designs can we identify amidst that wreckage...?

Timo Saloniemi
 
NCC-1701 said:
daveyNY said:
The Kelvin is a Multi-part's and piece's ship.....now...

PoorUSSKelvin.jpg

Nice to see that the ASTROGATOR is still around. (see black square bottom middle)

BTW: Doesn't it appear that there are a whole lot more starship part's and piece's floating around than can be accounted for by just the USS Kelvin??
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Do we even know the Kelvin's in the same time frame as the Enterprise? I thought not.
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OH...I kinda thought that Pike's Enterprise did some Time Jumpin' of it's own to go back and save the Kelvin...
But now that I've read Timos spoiler (and yes I know it's a joke)..
That could be exactly what we are seeing (without the SW reference).
 
Lots of loose nacelles there. Or then submarines. Do I see something like a Miranda roll bar above Pike's head, or is that curved piece a neo-Constitution engine pylon?

One would think TPTB would mainly use random elements of NCC-1701 and NCC-O514 here, but here's hoping that they actually designed a third and perhaps a fourth Starfleet ship model that then got destroyed for the scene. (It's also likely, although by no means certain, that we will see these ships intact in a preceding scene... Again, here's hoping.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
This is driving me absolutely crazy.I think there are actually 2 ships with single nacelles shown.I was over at Ex Astris Scientia and Bernd Schneider already has screen captures from the trailer.Below are the pics from his site.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/kelvin-screen2.jpg

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/fighters-trekxi-screen.jpg

These don't look like the same ship to me.The Kelvin's top section with the deflector dish on top looks like it goes off to the right a bit,it looks more TOS to me.The 2nd ship looks more "modern",the top section goes straight up and it has a base that is connected to the top of the saucer where as the first pic doesn't look like it has the base.That 2nd picture i took from the youtube shot better illustrates the base( can't think of a better word at the moment).Below..

http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...72/kelvin3.jpg

That first capture i took it look like to top pylon leans extremely to the right,might be destruction damage?

http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...72/kelvin2.jpg

There is a timeframe question above and this might explain some things.
 
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The Wormhole said:
Tyberius said:
There have been several posts that address the Kelvin and describe her as having a nacelle and an engineering hull. This is not entirely correct. The Kelvin has two nacelles, one appears to house the engineering section and the other appears to house the warp coil.

Carry on.:techman:
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Do you have any proof to back this statement up? Because all the pictures I see only feature one nacelle.
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From the American Heritage Dictionary


nacelle
n. A separate streamlined enclosure on an aircraft for sheltering the crew or cargo or housing an engine.
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Because of its placement - separate from the saucer section - and having no other nacelles of its own, the engineering section becomes a nacelle

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I suppose any secondary hull is technically a nacelle, with only the primary hull not having the designation.

Please also bear in mind that I am not discussing what it seen on screen. I agree that there are three main component parts of the Kelvin. The saucer section (main hull) warp coil housing (lower nacelle - propeller) and the engineering hull (upper nacelle). I am only putting forth issues that I have with the vernacular of ST in describing this particular ship.
 
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ancient said:
How about this:

The Kelvin has one Warp Nacelle.
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That's fine.

We just seem to be losing the original meaning of nacelle, and with the hull configuration of the Kelvin in particular the problem is exacerbated.
 
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