The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

[Captaindemotion]

How Queen Elizabeth II's death changes how people will view the Lazenby Bond movie.

I’ve actually been wondering if they’ll call the next movie On His Majesty’s Secret Service, though I suppose that they may feel they had enough OHMSS nods in No Time to Die.

It is a little wild that not only every onscreen Bond until now (including Barry Nelson) was during Elizabeth II’s reign but so too were even all the literary ones. Fleming began writing the first book on 17th February 1952, 11 days after she became Queen.

 

[Starkers]

I guess from now on Bond is a King's Man

 

[cooleddie74]

"Sorry, Sir!"

 

[cooleddie74]

Happy 60th Birthday to Dr. No and, by extension, the James Bond movie franchise! The film had its world premiere at the London Pavillion on October 5, 1962.

 

[Starkers]

Many happy returns...MR BOND!

 

[CorporalClegg]

Did anyone else watch the new documentary on the music over on Amazon? I found it to be exceedingly underwhelming. It's advertised as "for the 60th", but I can't help but think it was recorded earlier and shelved until now because it comes off more as a commercial for NT2D, than anything overly comprehensive.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I found an interesting bit of business in my 50th anniversary TV viewing that I thought would be noteworthy here. In the October 11, 1972, episode of Adam-12, "Training Wheels," Malloy and Reed respond to a 459 at a car dealership. When they announce themselves to the burglar inside, he drives a red 1972 AMC Javelin out the showroom window, and a high-speed chase ensues. Sound-familiar?

As this soundly predates production of TMWTGG (LALD just began filming the same week that the episode aired), I have to think that both sequences were AMC's idea.

 

[Samurai8472]

I finally watched the movie. Did you know we have a thing called "snow" and "ice"? They really knocked you over the head that this movie was focusing on James Bond and the snow factor this time. There were at least 3 snow related sequences.

It drags on alot during the piza gloria moments. The weird hypnotism scene really reminded me of those psychedelic art house 60's art movies

Also it was pretty common back in those days to speed up the ADR so the dialogue has an unnatural rushness to it.

 

[Starkers]

I mean the film is primarily set in Austria where there's a lot of snow and ice.

It's like complaining there's a lot of sea and sun in Licence to Kill, and how many sea related scenes are there in LTK?

 

[Starkers]

Oops meant Switzerland not Austria obviously! Austria was where Bond was supposed to lure Blofeld to so he could be snatched! (Turning in my licence to kill as we speak)

 

[CorporalClegg]

Oops meant Switzerland

During the holidays.

Though I suppose, with a half a century of global warming, snow during Christmas in the Alps does seem a little weird.

 

[cooleddie74]

This is a great video. And though it's unofficial from the perspective of the producers I like to believe in my own head canon that the gangster from Diamonds Are Forever is the same gangster in the pre-credits sequence of The Man With the Golden Gun.

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[Starkers]

That's great. I hadn't picked up on Dr Vogel in NTTD.

As for Marc Lawrence in DAF and TMWTGG, it could work, although he seemed little more than a thug in DAF whereas when he arrives on Scaramanga's island it's implied that he's a top hitman? It's definitely plausible though. (Good old Marc Lawrence, did TNG and of course DS9 where he, obviously, played a gangster! Was just watching From Dusk Till Dawn the other day and he even shows up in that!)

Next question, did Klaus Hergersheimer originally work for NASA before getting a job checking radiation meters?

It's also plausible that Shane Rimmer was playing the same character between YOLT and DAF, though it's unlikely this person then went on to join the navy and rise to captain a nuclear sub inside of 6 years

One of my minor annoyances/things I want them to change in the franchise is to get rid of Tanner and give all his stuff to Moneypeny. This way you get to still have MP as a character, but she at least is more than a secretary, she's M's most trusted assistant.

 

[cooleddie74]

I do appreciate how Tanner was a stuffed shirt in both TMWTGG and FYEO and his later incarnation in the same timeline is still a stuffed shirt, only less abrasive. So Tanner basically feels like he could be the same guy across the Moore and Brosnan Eras.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Did I miss something, or did they skip Felix Leiter's appearance in Never Say Never Again?

Also, if they count NSNA at all, as they did with Blofeld, Moneypenny, and Q, wouldn't they have to count Domino, Largo, Lippe, and any other named character that also was in Thunderball?

And finally, am I overthinking this? I do need answers.

 

[cooleddie74]

No, I noticed omissions, too. But given that it's NSNA part of me can't blame them.

 

[marillion]

Did I miss something, or did they skip Felix Leiter's appearance in Never Say Never Again?

Also, if they count NSNA at all, as they did with Blofeld, Moneypenny, and Q, wouldn't they have to count Domino, Largo, Lippe, and any other named character that also was in Thunderball?

And finally, am I overthinking this? I do need answers.

You're right. They had several NSNA characters, but not the ones you mentioned. Bit of a slip up, as they say...

 

[cooleddie74]

Given the film's non-canon status in the EON film series I can't really target much blame, though. It's just one step above the 1967 Casino Royale in likability and just as unofficial.

 

[CorporalClegg]

One of my greatest regrets of the films is that they never bothered to make Tanner a more integral part.

I suppose the same could be said for Mathis, but I get why it went introduced for so many years. Still, they didn't have to kill him.

 

[Starkers]

The trouble is by the time you get to Spectre you have great actors playing M, Q, Moneypenny and Tanner and you're trying desperately to give them stuff to do with mixed results. I mean Moneypenny is great in Skyfall and then she's just a fucking secretary from there on. Q goes to Austria in Spectre which feels shoehorned in. M isn't treated well in either Spectre or NTTD with Bond being incredibly disrespectful in both films. At least M gets some action at the end of Spectre.

Another reason to merge Tanner into Moneypenny IMO.