It isn't silly, it's fact, backed up by the show.
The Intersection of Canon and the Prime Timeline
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Oh, it's quite silly. And it's only backed up by what CBS says. There's nothing about this show that looks or feels remotely like TOS.
And how could it? Fifty years separates these two shows and the world is incredibly different, the experience of those writers growing up are completely different.
The idea that these two are supposed to take place in the same universe at roughly the same time is a farce. One egged on by CBS because they don't have faith in this show being able to stand on its own.
Since CBS can't touch anything from the Kelvin movies, I'm curious how they'll deal with Romulus should the Picard series (or anything post-2387) happen.
It's always possible they'll just ignore it. The fandom will just love that
Oh I bet you 100% any series set post whatever year it was that Romulus was destroyed (do we actually know the date?) will ignore that event completely. If Star Trek ever goes into the "future" future, having a major power lose their planet is going to be a huge distraction for whatever series they decide to do. It works in Kelvin universe, because it's a closed loop universe. Having it happen in Prime would be a huge deal compared to Kelvin and will needlessly complicate the writing. So it won't happen
Yep, 2387, 129 years in the future of the movie.
Losing Romulus won't wipe out the Romulan species in a story necessarily. Might cause political collapse but they can just mention destabilization in the Beta Quadrant in an off handed remark and continue to ignore it.Oh I bet you 100% any series set post whatever year it was that Romulus was destroyed (do we actually know the date?) will ignore that event completely. If Star Trek ever goes into the "future" future, having a major power lose their planet is going to be a huge distraction for whatever series they decide to do. It works in Kelvin universe, because it's a closed loop universe. Having it happen in Prime would be a huge deal compared to Kelvin and will needlessly complicate the writing. So it won't happen
I think the arguments about jellybean buttons, plywood walls and cement-mixer grid screens faded off awhile ago. You may be having a closed loop logic error.
I wouldn't be surprised if a Picard mini-series deals with that exact situation. Especially considering the end of Nemesis.
On this forum? I wouldn't hold my breath
Except you don't need any of that stuff to still mimic the feel of TOS, which I don't think DSC has done in the slightest, if indeed it's supposed to take place during the TOS time period. All of which is moot, because I never expected that nor wanted it. I wanted a reboot that didn't have to hold itself accountable to 50+ years of canon and continuity.
On this forum? I wouldn't hold my breath
There are people here whose opinions I trust.
So Nemesis took place in 2379, Romulus blew up in 2387. Yep that could work. Set it about 15 years after Nemesis (so it's pretty close to real time) and about 7-8 years after Romulus blew up. Maybe Picard will help Romulans find a new planet or something. BTW, it hasn't been mentioned but Reman should also be destroyed, since they are in the same star system and all, right? And Picard sure has some history with both of them. Could be interesting
What would it have taken?
They incorporated TOS sound affects where possible. If they can't borrow from TOS fx, they've at least used the Franz book. They apparently weren't able to bring Roger Carmel back from the dead. I'm sure they can't be forgiven for that. I am and always have been a TOS fan since I was old enough to turn the TV on, and I don't see it hurting TOS at all. It integrates as it can, and if it offers suprises, that's fine. If I want a love letter to TOS, ill watch Mignona's fantastic production, and I do.
TOS uniforms? If they'd done that, and I suspect they still will, they'd still never placte the purists who would want the Cage turtlenecks. Personally I wish they'd gone with Kelvin uniforms, but there was no way that was going to be allowed in the current climate.
TOS ship designs? I love them. I don't love them in a 21st century television show. I don't like think computers that sound like relays are being fired, the unforgivable TOS sexism, the swarthy=bad guy mentality and other throwbacks belong in the show either. So I don't think anyone is going to agree on hos DSC would integrate into TOS.
Not much, really. Just something that looks like the time period (or fictional time period, in this case) in which the producers say the show is taking place.
They are far superior to what Discovery gave us. Just for a reminder, Discovery itself is based on an early-1970's design.
Why even try? If TOS is that offensive to modern audiences, then the best thing to do is either reboot or remove TOS from Prime continuity (which they are doing piecemeal).
It might not look like it fits in TOS, but the story and lore does fine.
Just as a reminder why TOS effects are PERFECTLY FINE by today's standards:
They could have done same VFX for STD. They didn't because they wanted to sell more merchandise. Therefore the whole 25% difference in style
Just as a reminder why TOS effects are PERFECTLY FINE by today's standards:
I love that ship. It looks like it belongs in every one of those shots.
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