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The Intersection of Canon and the Prime Timeline

So, which of these applies to you?!

  • Discovery is canon and it takes place in the prime timeline

    Votes: 35 45.5%
  • Discovery is canon and takes place in the Kelvin timeline

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Discovery is canon and takes place in another universe that we have never seen before

    Votes: 23 29.9%
  • Discovery is canon and takes place in another unvierse that we have seen before (if so, which?)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Discovery is non-canon and therefore doesn't take place in any universe in the Star Trek multiverse

    Votes: 5 6.5%
  • I don't care about canon

    Votes: 14 18.2%

  • Total voters
    77
In this world of DSC's visual reimagining though, we have no idea what the augment virus infected Klingons looked like. ENT depicted them as transforming into swarthy human lookalikes, whereas in DSC's visual history the disease may simply have robbed them of a few extra head bumps, or perhaps caused a bit of facial hair to sprout: IOW, just enough difference for them to appear different to their fellow Klingons (and to visiting Starfleet officers from the 24th century) but not so much as to cause them to stand out from the crowd in background shots

I'm liking the idea that DSC Klingons are the result of an attempt to reverse the effects of the augment virus, but it went too far and caused some of them to become "Klingons on steroids".

Meaning, the 'treatment' did bring back their Klingon characteristics - just too much of them.

Then again, it could simply be the result of normal variation in the species. In humans, this manifests itself in differing skin colors. Who knows what Klingon racial diversity would look like? This could be it.
 
I'm liking the idea that DSC Klingons are the result of an attempt to reverse the effects of the augment virus, but it went too far and caused some of them to become "Klingons on steroids".

Meaning, the 'treatment' did bring back their Klingon characteristics - just too much of them.

Then again, it could simply be the result of normal variation in the species. In humans, this manifests itself in differing skin colors. Who knows what Klingon racial diversity would look like? This could be it.

They have knowledge of science, as evidenced by the transplanting of Voq into Tyler. So a genetic "reversion" to pure Klingon, going back many generations as a reaction to the spread of the Augments.

I would like there to be some TMP/TNG era Klingons in hiding, which end up emerging when the political climate changes. Also the Augments who spread out and encountered Kirk etc, could be outcasts and exiles from Quo'nos, and setup a colony called Kling. (Fixing that particular canon issue).

That could tie things up nicely explaining the Klingon aesthetic changes.
 
Also the Augments who spread out and encountered Kirk etc, could be outcasts and exiles from Quo'nos, and setup a colony called Kling. (Fixing that particular canon issue).

What issue? Earth has multiple names.
 
Kling is used in canon to refer to their world prior to the NX-01 launch so, no.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Qo'noS

Scrolling to nearly the bottom of the page, it was mentioned in TNG but actually only canonised by Discovery recently as being an alternative name going back some time.
 
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And only canonized in DSC because it appears on a Star Map in several episodes, though barely legible except in a few shots.
 
My vote went to "I don't care". I just want some good stories.

If I had to vote for something else, I would have voted for it being in the Prime Timeline, as it's just best for my brain to accept what CBS says and not fight it. Like I wrote, I really don't care.

But I really think it would be better if they retconned it into being in its own alternate timeline. You'd have the Prime Timeline, Kelvin Timeline, Disco Timeline, Various different 'Mirror Universe' timelines, and all those timelines revealed in the TNG episode Parallels. I understand the real world business reasons why they probably wouldn't do it, but I just think it would help their relationship with the die-hards better if they did.

But again, I don't care. Just make the stories good.

How's that for a rambling, milquetoast, probably-should-have-responded-when-thread-was-first-posted-but-kept-on-forgetting-to-do-so answer? ;)
 
And only canonized in DSC because it appears on a Star Map in several episodes, though barely legible except in a few shots.

That's where a good bit of canon comes from though. Well, it's where a lot of MA articles information comes from that the new productions borrow. It's a weird cycle. Which just makes working all this out harder. :lol:
 
That's where a good bit of canon comes from though. Well, it's where a lot of MA articles information comes from that the new productions borrow. It's a weird cycle. Which just makes working all this out harder. :lol:

Star Trek Into Darkness art team copied a Wiki info box from the Qo'noS page on the Star Trek Online wiki :lol:

Then in turn, Memory-Alpha now uses the info from STID that came from it.
 
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I just want to prove what I said because I think it is hilarious, so here is a transcript of View Screen info for Qo'noS in STID (thanks to M-A for the transcription)

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And here is the STO Wikibox from December 2012, 5 months before the movie came out. I checked M-A around the same time, it didn't match the STO one.

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only differences is that the movie people added the Sector Block, and removed the First City Shipyard
 
only differences is that the movie people added the Sector Block, and removed the First City Shipyard
I think they actually didn't. The sector blocks were a thing in STO (and uniquely STO) until 2015 when they were removed. So it's really just the shipyard.
 
I think they actually didn't. The sector blocks were a thing in STO (and uniquely STO) until 2015 when they were removed. So it's really just the shipyard.
My snip was from before they removed the sector blocks, STO's Qo'noS wiki page never mentioned them in the Info Box, only in the body text.

Unless Infobox edits break page history.
 
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