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Spoilers The Gorn should sue this show

Here's a hint, maybe not all Gorn all the same, like not all humans are the same.

We know that there are subspecies. TOS/TAS Gorn with fly-like eyes. The brown 70s Mego Gorn. ENT Gorn with reptilian eyes. And the tailed Gorn of the Kelvinverse computer games (explained as originally coming from a different universe).

I just hope whatever handwave the show does to keep the canon purists happy...

"That trick never works." [/Rocket J Squirrel]
 
Looking forward to seeing the new version of the Gorn, which I suspect will happen before the end of the season.*

*I have no foreknowledge on this point.
 
So the mighty Federation computer files which can call up the most insignificant fact from hundreds of different worlds for some reason on the Enterprise there is no record of multiple contacts with the Gorn? Seems unlikely but sure.
Section 31 was involved.
 
So the mighty Federation computer files which can call up the most insignificant fact from hundreds of different worlds for some reason on the Enterprise there is no record of multiple contacts with the Gorn? Seems unlikely but sure.
Or it wasn't reviewed by Kirk.

Regardless, nothing indicates first contact. No contradiction.
 
So the mighty Federation computer files which can call up the most insignificant fact from hundreds of different worlds for some reason on the Enterprise there is no record of multiple contacts with the Gorn? Seems unlikely but sure.

Not so much if you were watching the series when it was made. The storage and retrieval of computer systems then were much more limited than they would be even ten years later, let alone twenty, and there's plenty of script evidence scattered through the series indicating that the writers understood very little about computing, anyway.

That Spock would have to do fairly meticulous research, taking some period of time, to locate an image of an historical figure as well-known as Khan (and other dialogue in the episode indicates that the Eugenics Wars and Khan were, in fact, widely-known), seemed plausible in those days. As did the Enterprise having limited access to the details of all Starfleet contacts over a period of a decade or more.

Because, you see, in 1966 there were no "mighty Federation computer files which can call up the most insignificant fact from hundreds of different worlds."

Now, there are.
 
So the mighty Federation computer files which can call up the most insignificant fact from hundreds of different worlds for some reason on the Enterprise there is no record of multiple contacts with the Gorn? Seems unlikely but sure.
Hey these are the same Starfleet ships that can't tell Ceti Alpha 5 from Ceti Alpha 6.

Also maybe La'an is just lying through her teeth to cover up her heritage and Una is covering for her. I mean, we do see summaries of future episodes saying Number One has some mysterious secret (and if it's her also being genetically engineered Dr. Bashir is calling and wants his hamfisted storyline back from both of these ladies)
 
Strange New Worlds "Children of the Gorn"

Are we being groomed to view the Gorn as the next Big Bad? Sure, they're reptilian, strong, cunning, ruthless, and like to inflict body horror. And a weird creed when it comes to their victims, leaving one to survive like Sonak in the transporter room...
 
"Not so much if you were watching the series when it was made. The storage and retrieval of computer systems then were much more limited than they would be even ten years later, let alone twenty, and there's plenty of script evidence scattered through the series indicating that the writers understood very little about computing, anyway."

I was watching when it was made. None the less the fictional computers were able to function as previously stated.

"That Spock would have to do fairly meticulous research, taking some period of time, to locate an image of an historical figure as well-known as Khan (and other dialogue in the episode indicates that the Eugenics Wars and Khan were, in fact, widely-known), seemed plausible in those days. As did the Enterprise having limited access to the details of all Starfleet contacts over a period of a decade or more."

Khan was not widely know in the 23 century. My evidence? No one knew who he was until Spock told them. Per Spock records of that time period were fragmented. Hence the difficulty in confirming Khan's identity. To be honest the only thing limiting the E's files was plot. However based on the general reliability of the computer not knowing about the Gorn or where their territory might be seems HIGHLY unlikely.

Not for nothing but the newer Trek's attitude of "just because they never specifically said something did or didn't happen means we can do what ever we want, regardless of how much sense it makes" wears a little thin after a while.

BTW I did like SNW I just wish they'd stop with all the continuity errors or just say it's a whole new ball game and have at it.
 
"Not so much if you were watching the series when it was made. The storage and retrieval of computer systems then were much more limited than they would be even ten years later, let alone twenty, and there's plenty of script evidence scattered through the series indicating that the writers understood very little about computing, anyway."

I was watching when it was made. None the less the fictional computers were able to function as previously stated.

Nope.

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Khan was not widely know in the 23 century. My evidence? No one knew who he was until Spock told them.

Hah. Completely wrong.

MCCOY: The last of the tyrants to be overthrown.

SCOTT: I must confess, gentlemen. I've always held a sneaking admiration for this one.

KIRK: He was the best of the tyrants and the most dangerous. They were supermen, in a sense. Stronger, braver, certainly more ambitious, more daring.

SPOCK: Gentlemen, this romanticism about a ruthless dictator is

KIRK: Mister Spock, we humans have a streak of barbarism in us. Appalling, but there, nevertheless.

SCOTT: There were no massacres under his rule.

SPOCK: And as little freedom.

MCCOY: No wars until he was attacked.


Records may have been "spotty," as Spock said, and pictures required a lengthy search to come up with - because the Enterprise computers were primitive and limited in their data retrieval capabilities - but Kirk and his officers knew all about Khan, and had set personal opinions about him based on what they'd learned about his rule. Those opinions clearly weren't derived from a hasty read of some data sheets Spock provided - Scotty had "always" held an admiration for Khan.

The writing on this show is already miles ahead of any other version of Trek on the air for quite a few years.
 
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They won't.

The only way to stop it now is to stop purchasing it.
Probably but I will give it the season to see. Who knows the writing could greatly improve and make it worth putting up with. Note: I stopped Disco after season 2 and will stop with Picard season 2 as well. Note: Love Lower Decks and Prodigy.
 
Probably but I will give it the season to see. Who knows the writing could greatly improve and make it worth putting up with. Note: I stopped Disco after season 2 and will stop with Picard season 2 as well. Note: Love Lower Decks and Prodigy.
Probably not.

The continuity threads have already started. ;)
 
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