IIRC per SAG rules two actors cannot have the same credit name.
One would need to change how they're credited.
Spoilers The game changing Voq theory
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IIRC per SAG rules two actors cannot have the same credit name.
One would need to change how they're credited.
You know that's a really good point. But given that "Javid Prime" (chuckle) only ever appeared in a web series, is he a SAG member?
I was just talking in general, not about him. But he probably isn't.
You mean litmus test?
Oh you're right - but there's a silly amount of actors/performers who aren't signed up and wouldn't care. (edit: in hindsight I should have mentioned that, but it a) didn't occur to me and b) I havent slept for a few days
)For example, there are four Scott Levy's on IMDB. Two of them are regularly working under the same name - and two with credits that can be counted on one hand. I'm not sure if any of them would be SAG members - and I'd guess Javid Prime isn't.
As it's not a real name, I'd guess it'd bypass the rulebook.
You're talking about The Orville writers ripping off Star Trek, right?
Stupid question time.
If Voq is the follower of T'Kuvma, whose rallying cry is "Remain Klingon"...
...how does being turned into a human in any way work to convince the other houses of T'Kuvma's cause??
I'm good if this theory turns out to be true, not only because I get to come in here and blast somebody with a Trump meme and a Lex Luthor meme, but because all the parts and clues do seem to fit nicely. Just not sure how well it gets along with the story so far.
If Voq is the follower of T'Kuvma, whose rallying cry is "Remain Klingon"...
...how does being turned into a human in any way work to convince the other houses of T'Kuvma's cause??
I'm good if this theory turns out to be true, not only because I get to come in here and blast somebody with a Trump meme and a Lex Luthor meme, but because all the parts and clues do seem to fit nicely. Just not sure how well it gets along with the story so far.
Isn't that the whole point of L'Rell telling him he'd have to sacrifice "everything" in order to make the Mokai plan work. What did he value most that he still had at the end of that episode? His Klingon identity. What else did he have to lose, besides his life?
I still think the real Lt. Tyler's memories have been implanted and adjusted to make his story believable to Lorca. He works better as an undercover agent if he isn't Voq trying to deceive, but really believes he's Ash Tyler and been a POW for months etc. The trauma is real. The existence of the mind-sifter/mind-ripper in TOS canon makes this easily plausible.
I still think the real Lt. Tyler's memories have been implanted and adjusted to make his story believable to Lorca. He works better as an undercover agent if he isn't Voq trying to deceive, but really believes he's Ash Tyler and been a POW for months etc. The trauma is real. The existence of the mind-sifter/mind-ripper in TOS canon makes this easily plausible.
Nationalism sews the seeds of its own hypocrisy
Sure, but I guess I don't know what the endgame of that would have to be.
I know, "watch the show, dummy"
but just trying to see if the theory makes sense besides in terms of casting wackiness.
With WestWorld, the evidence was there, but I was being prideful and stubborn and refused to see it until I had no other choice.
With this "Tyler is Voq" thing, though, there IS no evidence.
I was rewatching Errand of Mercy this weekend. It's interesting how much more statist the Klingons become in a decade. SOMETHING happens.Sure, but I guess I don't know what the endgame of that would have to be.
I know, "watch the show, dummy"
was that before or after you knew there was evidence?
^ Both. People would point out things to support the "two timelines" and "William is the Man in Black" theories, and I would argue with them out of stubborn pride.
Legit question: how can you be sure you're not doing the same thing in here?
^ Because there's nothing from Discovery itself through the first five episodes that supports the "Tyler is Voq" theory.
How do you square away Tyler lying to Lorca then?
^ We don't know why he's lying to Lorca, but the fact that he's lying isn't evidence in itself that he's really Voq in disguise.
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I'd say there were hints throughout the episode that Tyler is Voq but as we've only just met tyler, give it time.
I'd say there were hints throughout the episode that Tyler is Voq but as we've only just met tyler, give it time.
