Spoilers The game changing Voq theory

[Jarvisimo]

The facebook page linked in this thread oddly has that bruoght up.

According to comments on a public post on Javid Prime's page, someone else linked the two Javid's then later corrected it. Not to say the real Javid's telling the truth that he's not involved, but he's saying no.

edit: The threads here.

Well, that clears it up. It is a pseudonym.

Oh showrunners

 

[Tim Thomason]

Realistically, what would be the logistics of making a member of one species be able to pass as another, even fooling medical and other scans, transporters, etc?

Physical appearance would have to be radically altered (especially for these grotesque Klingons ), internal physiology would have to be rearranged, DNA would have to be rewritten. Anything else?

Kor

The House of Mokai are deceivers, presumably spymasters and whatnot. We know Klingons did similar things in Arne Darvin, and the Augment virus specifically made Klingons more human in appearance and psychology. So, while it doesn't make sense for such a genetic overhaul to be possible, it apparently is in the Star Trek universe.

And it's not going to be perfect. There should be small signs (or maybe no signs, as a genetically perfect being would be odd in and of itself) that would be detectable years later. This Voq-Tyler incident may lead to research that gave McCoy his ability to read Darvin as a Klingon (under intense tricorder scan) ten years later. By the Berman era, genetic therapy to such an extent could be avoided because of irreperable changes to the person's psyche.

And the external stuff isn't that crazy (even for these grotesque Klingons), but the internal stuff must be a nightmare to work around. All those excess organs and lung bones and whatnot. It's not looking good for Voq.

 

[Kor]

Didn't Worf de-evolve into a feral Klingon monster? That actually makes perfect sense!

I believe it was Data's cat that became an iguana.

Realism!

Barclay became half giant spider and Riker became some sort of caveman. There was no rhyme or reason to the de-evolved forms, even amongst the same species!

Kor

 

[SJA]

Barclay became half giant spider and Riker became some sort of caveman. There was no rhyme or reason to the de-evolved forms, even amongst the same species!

Kor

As long as nobody becomes lizards...

 

[Noname Given]

If Tyler is a Klingon, the doctor should detect that. Even if the Dr doesn't, Lorca's tribble should.

Lorca's Tribble is probably neutered (how that's done? Don't ask me... ) <--- And neutered Tribbles will be found to be Klingon tolerant; so the unofficial Fed Tribble policy will be: No Neutering of Tribbles.

 

[Campe]

As long as nobody becomes lizards...

Nah, no one went to transwarp.

 

[Tuskin38]

Lorca's Tribble is probably neutered (how that's done? Don't ask me... ) <--- And neutered Tribbles will be found to be Klingon tolerant; so the unofficial Fed Tribble policy will be: No Neutering of Tribbles.

Well there is a dissected tribble in Lorca’s lab. He probably figured it out the easy way

 

[SJA]

If he is a surgically enhanced Klingon will he set Saru's threat ganglia off (So to speak!)

 

[Tim Thomason]

If he is a surgically enhanced Klingon will he set Saru's threat ganglia off (So to speak!)

Oh right. I forgot we already had an inexplicably-designed biological being that can somehow "sense danger" on the show, besides Lorca's tribble. That means they must find a way to incapacitate Saru before he and Tyler meet. Saru's brief foray into command must not end very well.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Well, that clears it up. It is a pseudonym.

Oh showrunners

I'm really liking this. Respect to the showrunners for punking us like this

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I'm not entirely convinced yet, but my suspicion that this will be true does keep growing the more I think about it.

If Tyler is a Klingon, the doctor should detect that. Even if the Dr doesn't, Lorca's tribble should.

Yeah, the tribble probably won't like Tyler, but Lorca won't know why...

Realistically, what would be the logistics of making a member of one species be able to pass as another, even fooling medical and other scans, transporters, etc?

Physical appearance would have to be radically altered (especially for these grotesque Klingons ), internal physiology would have to be rearranged, DNA would have to be rewritten. Anything else?

Kor

The matriarchs of house Mókai will introduce us to things we never expected to be possible

 

[Tim Thomason]

It's gonna turn out that William Shatner was playing Voq this whole time.

 

[Campe]

Oh right. I forgot we already had an inexplicably-designed biological being that can somehow "sense danger" on the show, besides Lorca's tribble. That means they must find a way to incapacitate Saru before he and Tyler meet. Saru's brief foray into command must not end very well.

Saru’s ganglia are already out of wack with Burnham being around. As for the tribble... we’ll see how that works.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Oh right. I forgot we already had an inexplicably-designed biological being that can somehow "sense danger" on the show, besides Lorca's tribble. That means they must find a way to incapacitate Saru before he and Tyler meet. Saru's brief foray into command must not end very well.

Burnham set off Saru's threat ganglia once he began to consider her dangerous. If meeting tyler has the same effect, I can see Saru being confused as to why and trying to figure it out.

 

[AndyUK]

This is getting more likely all the time for me. It's a shame it hasn't been kept under wraps as it is a brilliantly clever ploy from the showrunners

Will make for a great plot line if it is true anyway.

 

[Tekolar]

Did nobody check Shazad Latif's Wikipedia entry yet??? His birth name is Shazad IQBAL.

 

[Tuskin38]

Did nobody check Shazad Latif's Wikipedia entry yet??? His birth name is Shazad IQBAL.

That.. is interesting.

 

[GilmourD]

Anyway, I've also worked on shows where the scripts are constantly running late, or being significantly rewritten at the last second, and this is a nightmare. But it happens sometimes, for whatever reason... the writing side is just not going well and the scripts are taking too long to pull together, or maybe the showrunner sucks and is not up to the task of getting this show running smoothly, or the network drags their feet with notes/approvals and throws things into chaos by swinging in at the last possible second with edicts that upend everything (I was once working on a serialized network show with some mystery arcs. THE NIGHT BEFORE we were going to shoot a scene for a mid-season episode, to pay off HALF A SEASON OF METICULOUSLY PLANNED BUILDUP on one leads mysterious backstory, the network exec said they had decided they hated what the reveal was and wanted that character to have a different backstory. This is at the end of the business day, so the writers had to spend that night trying to come up with a completely different idea, that would somehow also fit all the many clues and setup that had already been shot, that could be shot with the cast booked for the next day, in the locations already selected. As you might imagine, they did the best they could, but the resulting new pages were awful. Then these new pages are given to the actors in the morning, and shot immediately. The guest cast was now totally wrong for the way their roles had been reconceived, but it was so last minute, there was nothing to do but have them play these now-severely-miscast parts. And suddenly the series regular is told that the truth of her character is totally different than what she had been playing all year. And she has about an hour to assimilate that before going before cameras and shooting these new big dramatic scenes that she has just been handed. It was bad! But this stuff happens. You would be surprised by how many similar stories I have)

I would absolutely love to know what show that is/was, @Sakonna.

 

[GilmourD]

Did nobody check Shazad Latif's Wikipedia entry yet??? His birth name is Shazad IQBAL.

That.. is interesting.

It's Wikipedia. Did you look at the page history to see when that was inserted?

 

[Tuskin38]

It's Wikipedia. Did you look at the page history to see when that was inserted?

2015. It was the first thing I did.

I can't find anything else on google, except some Celebrity Ancestry site.

So it might not be accurate.