The Future Of Trek Is A Spinoff

[All Seeing Eye]

The future of Trek is a spin off.

By spin off I mean an entirely new fresh start in another area of the Galaxy with a new race.
It can be set in the early 21st century on the other side of the Alpha Quadrant. Our main characters and planet will be an Earthlike planet and a species not dissimilar from Humans. They've got many warp capable ships but have just built their latest and greatest deep space exploration vessel.
This race will be more militaristic than Starfleet for example but still have morals.

It will be set this early in order to make sure they don't have uber tech, it will also be a completely technobabbleless series.

Ships weapons for example will be plasma canons, railguns, fusion missiles fired in an accelerator and propelled further with a pulse detonation engine. basically it will be Trek like technology with added realism aka the Railguns and Missiles are more realistic early technology.

Just because this race is more militaristic and uses railguns does NOT make it like Stargate.

Such a spin off as this give us:

1. A fresh start.
2. A fresh template allowing us to go whatever direction we choose.
3. New races.
4. We get to create something similar to what they tried to do with ENT but actually be more successful.
5. It's different and thus more likeable.
6. It's early on and the tech is early and thus we're not going to be having them running into Humans or any other familiar race thus allowing this series to stand on its own.
7. It all takes place in the Trekverse.
8. Canon violation is impossible!
9. We get to see in great detail a new and interesting culture.
10. It wont be cheesy like most Trek.
11. It can create and entirely new fan base.
12. It will be in the Trekverse but wont be called Trek. So it wont be judged before newbies see it.

 

[Shazam!]

Just because this race is more militaristic and uses railguns does NOT make it like Stargate.

You're right. It makes it like BSG.

The future of Star Trek is a show about some dudes on a spaceship exploring strange new worlds, meeting robot women and butting heads with Klingons. None of this realism crap. The absurd should be the norm.

 

[Deckerd]

It will be in the Trekverse but wont be called Trek. So it wont be judged before newbies see it.

How about calling it something like Avatar?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Just because this race is more militaristic and uses railguns does NOT make it like Stargate.

You're right. It makes it like BSG.

It'll be nothing like BSG neither.

 

[FlapJoy]

The future of Trek is a spin off.

By spin off I mean an entirely new fresh start in another area of the Galaxy with a new race.

That's not a spin off, in fact it's the very antithesis.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The future of Trek is a spin off.

By spin off I mean an entirely new fresh start in another area of the Galaxy with a new race.

That's not a spin off, in fact it's the very antithesis.

It's a spinoff of Star Trek because it's in the same Trekverse.

 

[RegFan]

Star Trek is about humanity's future and it needs human characters. Such a series would also have a very weak or nonexistent link to previous Trek series. It would just be another space opera, not Trek. I'm not saying that series would be bad, there would just be no point in calling it a Trek series.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Star Trek is about humanity's future and it needs human characters. Such a series would also have a very weak or nonexistent link to previous Trek series. It would just be another space opera, not Trek. I'm not saying that series would be bad, there would just be no point in calling it a Trek series.

It's not getting called a Trek series. It's a spin off but will stand on its own. It will play by Trek rules however since it's in the Trekverse.

 

[RegFan]

Star Trek is about humanity's future and it needs human characters. Such a series would also have a very weak or nonexistent link to previous Trek series. It would just be another space opera, not Trek. I'm not saying that series would be bad, there would just be no point in calling it a Trek series.

It's not getting called a Trek series. It's a spin off but will stand on its own. It will play by Trek rules however since it's in the Trekverse.

What I want from a science fiction series taking place in the Trekverse are the Federation, humans, Klingons, Borg, tricorders, phasers, Romulans and all that familiar stuff, not some random alien race we've never heard of before and who's never heard of the Federation and humans.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Star Trek is about humanity's future and it needs human characters. Such a series would also have a very weak or nonexistent link to previous Trek series. It would just be another space opera, not Trek. I'm not saying that series would be bad, there would just be no point in calling it a Trek series.

It's not getting called a Trek series. It's a spin off but will stand on its own. It will play by Trek rules however since it's in the Trekverse.

What I want from a science fiction series taking place in the Trekverse are the Federation, humans, Klingons, Borg, tricorders, phasers, Romulans and all that familiar stuff, not some random alien race we've never heard of before and who's never heard of the Federation and humans.

So you don't want any change then? you want the same boring stuff that's already been done to death?

You said "not some random alien race we've never heard of before and who's never heard of the Federation and humans."
The only reason you feel that way is because you know nothing about them. Once the series kicks off and you get introduced to this new race and culture and people, you will begin to feel a connection to them and they'll feel like they're your own people. They'll be the good guys and you'll want them to succeed.

 

[O'Dib]

Hey, no one's ever satisfactorily explained any of the twin earths in TOS. We could be dealing with an actual Earth, with all our continents and languages, except it's not part of the federation. Then it comes in contact with fed humans, and becomes an applicant. The series arc deals with who engineered all these nearly identical human-populated planets, which one is the original, and so forth.

 

[FlapJoy]

So you don't want any change then? you want the same boring stuff that's already been done to death?

There's change and then there's unrecognizable.

What Trek universe rules would be intact? A new galaxy with a new race, without Starfleet, the Federation, Borg, Klingons, phasers, ect... what have you left? Warp Drive? Star Wars has warp drive. So this new galaxy is far far away, and long long ago? Oh okay, Star Wars, you're talking about Star Wars? Right?

I'm just saying, you can have a changed show, but Star Trek IS the human factor, it IS Starfleet. If you change things too much, then it's just another show about other space dudes... equally as compelling I 'spose. But it's changed to the point that it's just all together different. And then you don't wanna call it Star Trek? Ok, cool, call it whatever you want, cuz it ain't Star Trek. Your dream realized !!!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

A new galaxy with a new race, without Starfleet, the Federation, Borg, Klingons, phasers, ect... what have you left? Warp Drive? Star Wars has warp drive. So this new galaxy is far far away, and long long ago? Oh okay, Star Wars, you're talking about Star Wars? Right?

Quoted from the OP:

It can be set in the early 21st century on the other side of the Alpha Quadrant.

 

[Tarek71]

Well, years ago I had an idea for a Voyager episode where they run into the Beta Federation. They cross into the Beta Quadrant and they run across Starfleet, a UFP, etc. Except its a separate one that formed in the late 22 st Century. A Daedalus Class ship (or a different class if anyone thinks that one is getting a little ill-fated) goes through a wormhole after rescuing a ship that nearly went in, and was transported 25,000 or so light years away. They could never return but they soon find that this part of the Galaxy is in the latter stages of a devastating interstellar war and nearly get caught in the middle.

But the example of the multispecies crew and the ideals of peace and the idea of a Federation takes hold through their diplomatic interventions and slowly a new Federation is formed. The ship never did make it back, and instead they settled among this new federation and made a new home.

Voyager initially encounters subspace traffic that mentions "Starfleet Command" and ships with designations like NCC- etc,". Long story short the Voyager crew eventually learns about the whole backstory, sees the Daedalus ship in a Fleet museum and meets the progeny of the crew, and its sole surviving member, a very elderly Vulcan. Of course they try to help voyager return to the Alpha Quadrant and are interested in making contact with the Alpha Federation, as they call it.

There are surviving remnants of human, Vulcan, andorian and other Alpha quadrant cultures and small numbers of each species, etc. Some familiar things, but they all have a new twist since they have developed separately for a very long time. Likewise the ships and uniforms seem very Starfleet-esque but have deviated of course as the many indigenous alien races that make up the Beta Federation have made their imprint on designs.

Anyhow, this reminds me of that, although obviously this was set during the 24th Century. I never had the idea then of a series set in this Beta Federation, and I still dont. But something like this would have a better connection with Star Trek than the idea in the OP, although there is nothing wrong with the idea expressed there per se. But I agree with others that it lacks an obvious connection with it.

 

[Tiberius]

So what's the difference between the idea in the OP and a series set outside the Trekverse?

 

[FlapJoy]

A new galaxy with a new race, without Starfleet, the Federation, Borg, Klingons, phasers, ect... what have you left? Warp Drive? Star Wars has warp drive. So this new galaxy is far far away, and long long ago? Oh okay, Star Wars, you're talking about Star Wars? Right?

Quoted from the OP:

It can be set in the early 21st century on the other side of the Alpha Quadrant.

Dude, you crack me up !!!

Well, years ago I had an idea for a Voyager episode where they run into the Beta Federation. They cross into the Beta Quadrant and they run across Starfleet, a UFP, etc. Except its a separate one that formed in the late 22 st Century. A Daedalus Class ship (or a different class if anyone thinks that one is getting a little ill-fated) goes through a wormhole after rescuing a ship that nearly went in, and was transported 25,000 or so light years away. They could never return but they soon find that this part of the Galaxy is in the latter stages of a devastating interstellar war and nearly get caught in the middle.

But the example of the multispecies crew and the ideals of peace and the idea of a Federation takes hold through their diplomatic interventions and slowly a new Federation is formed. The ship never did make it back, and instead they settled among this new federation and made a new home.

Voyager initially encounters subspace traffic that mentions "Starfleet Command" and ships with designations like NCC- etc,". Long story short the Voyager crew eventually learns about the whole backstory, sees the Daedalus ship in a Fleet museum and meets the progeny of the crew, and its sole surviving member, a very elderly Vulcan. Of course they try to help voyager return to the Alpha Quadrant and are interested in making contact with the Alpha Federation, as they call it.

There are surviving remnants of human, Vulcan, andorian and other Alpha quadrant cultures and small numbers of each species, etc. Some familiar things, but they all have a new twist since they have developed separately for a very long time. Likewise the ships and uniforms seem very Starfleet-esque but have deviated of course as the many indigenous alien races that make up the Beta Federation have made their imprint on designs.

Anyhow, this reminds me of that, although obviously this was set during the 24th Century. I never had the idea then of a series set in this Beta Federation, and I still dont. But something like this would have a better connection with Star Trek than the idea in the OP, although there is nothing wrong with the idea expressed there per se. But I agree with others that it lacks an obvious connection with it.

Now this is an interesting idea, even for a series.

So what's the difference between the idea in the OP and a series set outside the Trekverse?

Exactly !!

 

[AviTrek]

And if you're a producer pitching a show why do you want to pay Trek royalties? If you have a great new idea that is running away from the Trek brand, then why connect it at all and have to pay royalties and be limited in what you can do? Just create a new show from scratch and make it your own.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The future of Star Trek is a show about some dudes on a spaceship exploring strange new worlds, meeting robot women and butting heads with Klingons. None of this realism crap. The absurd should be the norm.

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

It's early on and the tech is early and thus we're not going to be having them running into Humans or any other familiar race thus allowing this series to stand on its own.
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It will be in the Trekverse but wont be called Trek

So how will viewers know it's in the Trekverse?

And why will it matter one way or the other whether its in the Trekverse since you aren't using any of it?

It will play by Trek rules

What are Trek rules?

And if you're a producer pitching a show why do you want to pay Trek royalties? If you have a great new idea that is running away from the Trek brand, then why connect it at all and have to pay royalties and be limited in what you can do? Just create a new show from scratch and make it your own.

Stop spoiling our fun with all that boring logic!

 

[T'Girl]

it will also be a completely technobabbleless series.

Ships weapons for example will be plasma canons, railguns, fusion missiles fired in an accelerator and propelled further with a pulse detonation engine.

How about this: the weapons are called weapons, as in lock weapons or fire weapons. You want to be completely "techno-babble-less?" Don't even name them.