Spoilers The Flash - Season 4

[Dick Whitman]

I thought it was great episode. It seemed to correct a lot of issues I have had with the show in recent seasons. A big one is that it used that Barry is Cop as a huge part of the episode. Sometimes so much focus is on Team Flash operating out of STAR Labs that it's easy to forget Barry has a regular job.

By design or coincidence Barry seeing Ralph as a criminal is homage to Elongated Man's first appearance in The Flash #112 from 1960. The Flash first suspected him of being responsible for series of thefts in Central City. But together track down the real crooks and become friends http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/The_Flash_Vol_1_112

This might be the only episode I can think of where there were no superpowered villains. Which was a refreshing change of pace. The detective, film noir nighttime atmosphere of the scenes at Ralph's office reminded me of something from the 1990 series.

I was not really disappointed in Mayor Bellows being a bad guy. Its an alternate version of his character from the old series after all. I was just happy to see him back after such a long absence. We had not seen him since the start of season 2. Hopefully this leads to him in more episodes. It was hinted that he has connections to Devoe/The Thinker. The Mayor being arrested should be big news and not forgotten about after one episode. I am friends with actor Vito D'Ambrosio on Facebook. He has got some nice pictures with himself and the cast on set from the episode. He is being coy about whether he knows about what the writers plans are for Bellows or not.

 

[Dick Whitman]

The Flash tries to capture Elongated Man who he thinks is a criminal in first appearance

 

[Dick Whitman]

 

[Tuskin38]

From the description for episode 6

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"Harry enlists Cisco’s help to summon the ultimate think tank: “The Council of Wells’,” a roundtable of the brightest Harrison Wells’ from various Earths." Is that meant to be a Rick and Morty reference?

 

[Nerys Myk]

From the description for episode 6

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"Harry enlists Cisco’s help to summon the ultimate think tank: “The Council of Wells’,” a roundtable of the brightest Harrison Wells’ from various Earths." Is that meant to be a Rick and Morty reference?

Spoiler: Or a

Comic book reference. The Council of Kangs

 

[Snaploud]

Spoiler: Or a

Comic book reference. The Council of Kangs

Spoiler: Or a

comic book reference to The Council of Reeds

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-council/4060-57131/

 

[Christopher]

I would assume the sitcom is riffing on the Marvel concept.

 

[Tuskin38]

Spoiler: Or a

Comic book reference. The Council of Kangs

Spoiler: Or a

comic book reference to The Council of Reeds

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-council/4060-57131/

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Or maybe all of the above. Rick and Morty is popular now, I could see Cisco referencing it, if he is the one who names them. Though, more likely its a reference to the comics yeah

 

[Christopher]

Just had a thought. I was wondering about the oddity of turning Mayor Bellows into a criminal, given that he's always seemed like a good guy up to now, and given that he's based on, and/or the doppelganger of, a nice-guy character from the '90 show. But I realized: If the mayor's in jail, they'll need to elect a new mayor at some point. Could we be getting a plotline about someone running for mayor? If so, who could it be? Captain Singh? Joe? Cecile? Probably not Harry, since he's the lookalike of an infamous Earth-1 criminal. And presumably not Barry, since we've already got one superhero mayor in the franchise.

Or maybe all of this is part of DeVoe's design and he's going to back someone even more sinister for mayor.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Spoiler: Spoilers above

The Council of Sheldons.

 

[matthunter]

These councils all riff off each other. There's the Rick and Morty one, the Reed Richards one, DC Online recently had a council of alternate timeline Batmen... If Doctor Who weren't set on having the Time Lords show mastery of parallel timelines there'd probably be a multi-Doctor consortium, IF he could actually get along with himself.

 

[Snaploud]

So, Team Flash is on the take...

Could we be getting a plotline about someone running for mayor? If so, who could it be? Captain Singh? Joe? Cecile?

Didn't Barry indicate that Joe should run (in the last episode)? It was an off-hand comment, so I don't know if he was serious.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I don't know. They just did the whole "running for mayor" thing over on Arrow.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't know. They just did the whole "running for mayor" thing over on Arrow.

Well running is kind of Barry's thing.

 

[Snaploud]

"Mayor Allen, are you the Flash?"

"What gave it away? My tendency to take off the cowl every five minutes?"

"Are you afraid your work as the Flash will detract from your work as mayor?"

"I wrote 30 directives and read 20 books on city government while you were talking. I think we'll be fine."

 

[dahj]

I don't know. They just did the whole "running for mayor" thing over on Arrow.

Well that was two seasons ago, and technically Oliver didn't get elected, he got the job by virtue of everyone else not wanting to die

But yeah, I doubt they'd do the mayor thing on Flash as well.

 

[Christopher]

But yeah, I doubt they'd do the mayor thing on Flash as well.

Not as a central thread, no, but maybe as a subplot. Or as a component of a larger plot about something else, as in my thought about DeVoe maybe backing a candidate for his own ends. It's just that when I see a TV show take a long-established background authority figure and suddenly turn him into a villain out of nowhere, I have to wonder if it's because they had plans that called for his replacement. I mean, why was it the mayor, specifically, that was after Ralph? It could've been any corrupt politician or business leader. I dunno, maybe Vito D'Ambrosio just wanted to play a bad guy, or maybe he got a steady gig on another series and had to be written out, or something. But maybe the decision was story-driven. We'll see what happens.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

#feminism #cringe
Heart might be in the right place but they can do better.

 

[Snaploud]

Why did they just let the evil murderous crime-boss leave? That was just bizarre.

 

[kirk55555]

You should actually watch the episode because it is not what you think...

Spoiler: Ralph Dibney in the Episode

It turns out that Dibney was never corrupt in the sense that you are thinking and Barry realizes he judged too quickly when he was younger. There is also a great bonding moment at the end when they realize they are both detectives at heart.

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That still means he's corrupt, and a cop. Two things Ralph Dibny has never been. he's also still a huge jerk (Kreisberg himself said that's why they brought him in and completely ignored all previous versions of the character, because they wanted a huge asshole on the show), which is also completely against the character. So, yeah, I'll never watch that epoisode, I won't acknowledge it as canon to the DCCW shows, and I'll refuse to watch any episode that might feature what is really just a fake Ralph Dibny