Spoilers The Flash - Season 3

[Kirk Prime]

That would be weak considering he was already a big reveal.

As pointed out, Jay was already used in name at least, as a reveal last year.

Julian I think would be very horrible.

Given his knowledge of the future, and the fact that he seems to have lived through these events before, he's another thought--

What if Savitar is actually a future version of Barry himself?

Kind of like how Hal went bad for awhile in the comics.

THAT might be an interesting cliffhanger...

 

[Romulan_spy]

Don't worry, it's not Jay.

It's Julian.

The thing about Julian is that he is not a speedster (not unless he is hiding it which is always a possibility, I guess). Although, it is possible he becomes a speedster as a result of being stuck in the speed force for so long.

 

[Christopher]

It looks like the writers kinda combined Speed with the Force form Star Wars to get Speedforce.
(I have no idea how it is in the comics, never really read Flash that much.)

The Speed Force was invented in the comics by Mark Waid in 1994 (which is why it was never mentioned in the 1990-1 television series). Here's a ComicsAlliance article discussing its origins and uses in the comics:

http://comicsalliance.com/ask-chris-317-the-speed-force/

Hmm... There's a page there of Savitar, and it looks like he's trying to merge with the Speed Force, in contrast with the show version's desire to escape from it.

 

[dahj]

The thing about Julian is that he is not a speedster

... yet.

This Savitar is form the future, we are yet to see the birth of Savitar in regular time...

 

[sojourner]

If the evil speedster turned out to be the mentor all along happens for a third time I'll shoot my horse.

 

[Mudd]

No reason that the speed force shouldnt be a mystical thing; there's nothing scientific about superheroes.

 

[Jax]

A quick thing since Iris was looking at the newspaper from the future, any idea why the writers choose the particular year of 2024? Assuming no large time jumps, the show wouldn't reach that year until season 10 and I don't think The Flash is doing that or would I want it too TBH. I wondered why they didn't choose a closer date for a 5th, 6th or 7th season?

 

[dahj]

^^
I don't think they intended to actually do the story from the article, it was just used to show us, the viewers, that Wells(Thawne) is from the future(and that Iris is the romantic lead). So they referenced an iconic event in the DC lore, along with the Queen-Wayne merger as an easter egg thing.

 

[Christopher]

A quick thing since Iris was looking at the newspaper from the future, any idea why the writers choose the particular year of 2024? Assuming no large time jumps, the show wouldn't reach that year until season 10 and I don't think The Flash is doing that or would I want it too TBH. I wondered why they didn't choose a closer date for a 5th, 6th or 7th season?

I agree with dodge -- they wanted something far enough ahead that it would be safely beyond the expected endpoint of the series. (Although, given how long The CW tends to keep its successful shows around, they may reach that point anyway.) After all, it depicted the apparent end of Barry Allen's career as the Flash, so it had to be far enough ahead to allow that career to be long and successful.

Of course, Rip Hunter was sent that voice message from the Barry Allen of 2056, which suggests that the "Crisis" disappearance is impermanent after all.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I don't like the "Julian is Savatar" theory. It would basically take a character that is slowly becoming likable and suddenly turning him evil.

A quick thing since Iris was looking at the newspaper from the future, any idea why the writers choose the particular year of 2024? Assuming no large time jumps, the show wouldn't reach that year until season 10 and I don't think The Flash is doing that or would I want it too TBH. I wondered why they didn't choose a closer date for a 5th, 6th or 7th season?

if they picked a date around the 5th or 6th season then if the show does last that long, they would be obligated to address it which would be problematic. By picking a date around season 10, they are safer since it is less likely the show will last that long. But the show can always do a big time jump at the end (like B5's Sleeping in Light) and use the event for the series finale no matter what season is the last. A big event where the hero disappears would actually be perfect to wrap up the whole show. In fact, I can imagine the series finale already. We jump into the future. Barry and Iris are happily married with a child. We see how the lives of Caitlin and Cisco et al have changed as well. The Reverse Flash shows up and fights the Flash. It is brutal. From the time vault, Barry knows this is it. We see him say goodbye to all his friends with a slide show of Barry's biggest moments throughout the show. Then in the grand finale, Barry and the Reverse Flash chase each other like never before. They run faster than ever. A vortex opens and they both disappear in a flash of light. Screen fades with the words "The Flash was never seen again." The End.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Wally's trap was a loop.

It was holding Savatar, before Wally got swapped out with Savatar raiders style.

Maybe Savatar's prison was not redefined for Wally? it had always been Francine's death, but why the hell would watching Francine's death over and over again be painful to any one by a West?

Joe or Wally are Savatar.

Unless Savatart's armours true job is to hide that he is a girl?

 

[Jax]

Screen fades with the words "The Flash was never seen again." The End.

One Quantum Leap is enough thank you



Also doesn't the newspaper kind of undercuts any threat to Barry. Like of course as the audience we know the main character won't die until at least the series finale but the characters should be like yep still there Barry, you're going to win Also Gideon is still there right? I forget, if so they probably should ask her for information on Savitar.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Also doesn't the newspaper kind of undercuts any threat to Barry. Like of course as the audience we know the main character won't die until at least the series finale but the characters should be like yep still there Barry, you're going to win

Yeah, it does kinda make you wonder why the characters fret at all.

Also Gideon is still there right? I forget, if so they probably should ask her for information on Savitar.

Asking Gideon would be too easy. The characters need to figure things out on their own. So the show has to conveniently make the characters forget to think about asking her.

 

[Christopher]

Also doesn't the newspaper kind of undercuts any threat to Barry.

Of course not, because we've seen time and time again (no pun intended) that the future is changeable. The plotting of fully half the CW/DC universe depends on it being changeable. So the headline is just a possible future.

Also Gideon is still there right? I forget, if so they probably should ask her for information on Savitar.

I'm not convinced it's the same Gideon. I tend to assume it's like Siri -- the brand name of a mass-market AI used by many people in the future. With a customizable interface, of course, since Eobard Thawne had it set to Morena Baccarin while Rip has his set to Amy Pemberton.

 

[Kirk Prime]

They time travel all the time in this show, so they can totally do the 2024 storyline at any time. Very good point about 2056 Barry though.

I think it would be pretty awesome if they gave Wayne industries a shout out.

 

[Commander Richard]

A quick thing since Iris was looking at the newspaper from the future, any idea why the writers choose the particular year of 2024? Assuming no large time jumps, the show wouldn't reach that year until season 10 and I don't think The Flash is doing that or would I want it too TBH. I wondered why they didn't choose a closer date for a 5th, 6th or 7th season?

Given that Smallville and Supernatural lasted 10 seasons, it was reasonable to assume that that The Flash could do the same. Personally, I think they could make it. It's not that far off. We're already approaching season 4. And if they don't, they could do a time jump as suggested.

 

[Kirk Prime]

I think it depends a lot on what they want to do. I think they are going very strong with DC shows, but they could always cancel one and replace with another DC character to keep things fresh. They could easily have any character from a canceled show appear on the new show or one of the remaining shows as needed.

No hurry, just when a show runs its course.

There are lots of heroes that could be tackled too, notably Superman. Green Lantern could be fun on TV, and would he require THAT much more effects than Flash?

How about a really GOOD Wonder Woman show?

 

[Commander Richard]

^ I think a lot of the big characters are being reserved for the movies. And there was a Wonder Woman show in development just after Arrow started. It was called "Amazon". Little chance of that being resurrected, with the DCEU and the upcoming movie.

 

[Christopher]

Given that Smallville and Supernatural lasted 10 seasons, it was reasonable to assume that that The Flash could do the same.

Supernatural is now in the latter part of its 12th season and has been renewed for a 13th. I have never seen a TV network more averse to cancelling shows than The CW.

 

[Snaploud]

Supernatural is now in the latter part of its 12th season and has been renewed for a 13th. I have never seen a TV network more averse to cancelling shows than The CW.

Well, in their defense, the characters on Supernatural have made a ton of deals with the King of Hell (not to mention having a special relationship with god and his sister). It's all about 'who you know' in that industry.