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Spoilers The Flash - Season 3

Barry has super-speed with a side of time travel functionality and technological genius. Somehow, I don't think it would be a problem for him.

Someone made a Heroes joke earlier in the thread, so it just made me think. Wouldn't the entire Season 1 plan have gone a whole lot easier with Micah and Hannah to rig the election? Instead of needing all sorts of insane things to get Linderman/Nathan into office.... just rig it electronically... :D
 
Wouldn't the entire Season 1 plan have gone a whole lot easier with Micah and Hannah to rig the election? Instead of needing all sorts of insane things to get Linderman/Nathan into office.... just rig it electronically... :D

Except that you can't rig an election that way, because there are far too many safeguards. There's no single nationwide election process; it's administered state by state, with different rules and practices in different states, and there's plenty of human oversight at multiple stages of the process.

http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/10/19/13322270/pollwatchers-rigged-election-law-trump
https://extranewsfeed.com/the-election-is-not-rigged-23917d9b0534#.7gms1iojy
 
This week's Flash was pretty good. Loved seeing Jesse in action and I wish she had just stayed on Earth 1 to continue to learn. I hope we see her again. Hopefully the new Wells doesn't have a hidden agenda, but something tells me he will. Honestly, I wasn't all that impressed with Mirror Master and Top. They were ok, I guess, but it was the other parts of the episode that really stood out, especially Caitlyn. We really haven't seen much of Caitlyn's personal life (Even though she did sing badly) so I'm really hoping with this transformation we might be able to see her away from Star Labs. I would really hate to see her turn evil though.
 
So, if Barry's memories were going to adapt in Flashpoint, why isn't he remembering the year of Julian Albert, and Cisco's brother dying yet?

Still don't know how anyone had powers without Eobard to set off the accelerator accident, or why original Wells wasn't running star labs. The premiere of this season is still pissing me off lol. And we still need a line implying Eobard left a time remnant behind to fulfill his role as Wells now that he is free from that particular branch of his personal timeline.
 
The fact those folks are there implies it was the case, as the real Wells wouldn't have done the experiment until years from now...
 
Which is why no one should have had powers in Flashpoint yet.

Maybe the accelerator explosion was so cosmically transcendent an event that even altering history couldn't erase it, and so the alterations worked "around" it in such a way that it still happened, like one of Doctor Who's "fixed points in time." So even an attempt to restore the original timeline would still fail to erase the explosion or move it back to its later date. The fact that it happened at the same time on Earth-2, apparently the closest parallel reality to Earth-1, may support that idea.
 
Remember Deadbolt was a Metahuman who did not get his powers from the explosion in Central City. He was not there when it happened. It seemed they were setting up a mystery on how he did get his powers. But they never have revisited that.
 
Remember Deadbolt was a Metahuman who did not get his powers from the explosion in Central City. He was not there when it happened. It seemed they were setting up a mystery on how he did get his powers. But they never have revisited that.

And we've since learned there were other superpowered individuals on Earth-1 before the accelerator explosion -- like the Justice Society, and various magically empowered people like Damien Darhk, Vixen, and Constantine.
 
Maybe the accelerator explosion was so cosmically transcendent an event that even altering history couldn't erase it, and so the alterations worked "around" it in such a way that it still happened, like one of Doctor Who's "fixed points in time." So even an attempt to restore the original timeline would still fail to erase the explosion or move it back to its later date. The fact that it happened at the same time on Earth-2, apparently the closest parallel reality to Earth-1, may support that idea.

It can't be a fixed point, since it originally happened in 2024 or 2020 or whatever year it was before Eobard changed the past before the show even started. The entire point of the S1 plan involved having it occur sooner. It seems by the time S2 came around, hey forgot their own timeline.

Still don't get why memories adjust in Flashpoint, but not anywhere else.

Other then the Deadbolt mystery, most powers seem to be magic, alien, serum or tech based, if they aren't accelerator-metas. No real proof of "born mutant" types yet.
 
It can't be a fixed point, since it originally happened in 2024 or 2020 or whatever year it was before Eobard changed the past before the show even started.

Yes, I know that. I'm saying the new version of the reactor explosion superseded that, maybe just by happening earlier. Think of it like a bullet hole in reality. Once it's there, it can't be erased. So it can be superseded by an alternate explosion that happens earlier, so that the "hole" is already there when time catches up with the point it was originally created; but once it's happened in a given year, it can't go back to happening later. Now that it's happened in 2013, maybe you could change history so that it happened in 2010 or 2005, but you couldn't push it back to the 2020s.

Or maybe the 2013 version of the explosion was different in some way because it was set off deliberately using future scientific knowledge, so that it was more powerful and had more of an indelible impact on the timeline. Maybe Thawne did it that way on purpose to ensure that it couldn't be undone no matter how else history was modified around it.


Still don't get why memories adjust in Flashpoint, but not anywhere else.

Maybe because Barry's original memories were more alien to that timeline, so it "rejected" them. This timeline is very nearly the same as his own, so the discrepancies aren't major enough to trigger a "rejection."


Other then the Deadbolt mystery, most powers seem to be magic, alien, serum or tech based, if they aren't accelerator-metas. No real proof of "born mutant" types yet.

Well, there are no known alien powers on Earth-1 yet, unless you count the Hawks and Vandal Savage getting their powers from a meteorite made of Thanagarian Nth metal.
 
In Flashpoint, Barry had effectively undone his own origin as the Flash (sure, it might still happen on the original timeline that Thawne wasn't patient enough for, but THIS Barry shouldn't be the Flash). The memory loss/replacement was connected to using his speed powers, which he shouldn't HAVE, ie paradox activity.

In the "restored" timeline, Barry's not that much of a paradox. He has a few memories that are different, but that's no different to his previous jaunts to the past where he didn't radically alter his own timeline.
 
In Flashpoint, Barry had effectively undone his own origin as the Flash (sure, it might still happen on the original timeline that Thawne wasn't patient enough for, but THIS Barry shouldn't be the Flash). The memory loss/replacement was connected to using his speed powers, which he shouldn't HAVE, ie paradox activity.

In the "restored" timeline, Barry's not that much of a paradox. He has a few memories that are different, but that's no different to his previous jaunts to the past where he didn't radically alter his own timeline.

Oh, yes, of course. That's a better explanation than mine. A Barry Allen with superpowers didn't "fit" in the Flashpoint timeline, so he was an anomaly that the universe was gradually erasing, replacing him with the unpowered Barry who should've existed in that universe. But in the restored timeline, Barry is still the Flash. He's the same, it's just a few things around him that are different.
 
I like they way they're handling Flashpoint. They've managed to create an alternate timeline that affects our main characters just enough to provide some drama but not enough to wipe away the first two seasons or the events in Arrow.
I am curious though about what's going on with Diggle's kid.
 
Finally watched last week's episode, and it was pretty good.
It was a lot of fun seeing Barry and Jessie working together as superheroes in costumes.
The Mirror Master and The Top were pretty good villains, although the explanation for The Top's name was kind of weird. Was a version of the character with those powers ever in the comics?
The team's search for another Harrison was fun. The new one seems like he'll be fun.
The way Barry captured Mirror Master with the infinite series of reflections was a pretty cool idea.
I'm really curious to see where they are going with Caitlin getting powers.
 
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