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Spoilers The Flash - Season 3

Surely he had too much hair to comfortably fit under that mask?

I got the impression that he stopped bathing.

Did the speed force... Oh, any one routinely clocking mach 3 is going to perspire a lot, so I'm guessing that Barry (after a run) always smells bad, unless the suit is flooding the region in deodorant like a chemical weapon.
 
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The problem with the use of time travel is why not use it to any tragedy strikes or why did Emo Allen never go back in time to help present day Barry. Hell at this rate the Flash should pull a Thawne from LoT and pull as many versions of him into the May 23rd battle and overwhelm Savitar, I don't care how fast he is, 50 Barry's v Savitar all at once is going to end messy for the god of speed.

I just think this over use of time travel opens up more issues than it cures.
 
Future Barry did say that he constructed an army of Time remnants, that Savatar killed.

We learnt in Legends, that when you leave the timeline, to go to the future, all futures forward of that point are as if you had never returned, which means that any future you find will be erased the moment you return to the present.

If that's true, then who the hell was that pretending to be Future Barry?
 
I really liked this episode. It was a great character piece that was made better by the acting. Danielle Panabaker is doing a great job as Killer Frost. She is really owning that character! Carlos Valdes really aced Future Cisco. And I was pleasantly surprised by Grant's performance as Future Barry. The scene with the two Barry's in the Time Vault room was a powerful scene. The cemetery scene with Barry and Joe was also very moving. I loved the new outfit for Future Flash. I hope our Barry gets it next season.

It looked like a normal person got out of the Savatar armor suit. So, I think that the person inside is actually a normal human being with no powers and it is the suit that has the speedster powers. That would be intriguing. The blue color of the suit makes me think that the suit itself is made out of the speed force hence why it would give speedster powers to anyone wearing it. I think it is very likely that Ronnie Is Savatar. It would make sense that Caitlyn would trust him so implicitly. Also, Ronnie was pulled into the black hole when he sacrificed himself to seal it, right? It is possible that he got sucked into the speed force and his firestorm abilities allowed him to form the savatar suit around him out of the speed force.
 
Ronnie was my immediate thought too at the end of the episode. I can't think of anyone else she'd have a one second turnaround to undying loyalty over.
 
Other than her evil Boyfriend Zoom?

Savatar's obsession with Flash point... If it's who you say it is, who a few of us say it is, then it's him from there, even though Flashpoint Caitln is an Optometrist.
 
That was a great episode but why not reveal savitar there at the end.

No doubt because they still want it to be a mystery to the audience. Now they've just added one more mystery: Why would Caitlin align with him?


Arrow did that with Prometheus and it's been great since.

Because that served the story they wanted to tell. This is a different story from different people. Just because a story beat is vaguely similar, that doesn't mean it's right to use it in exactly the same way. If anything, the fact that someone else just recently did it a certain way is the best argument in favor of not repeating the exact same beat.


Part of me though was thinking Flash's traveling to the future would somehow alter present events, thereby altering future events in 2024 too (think X-Men: Days of Future Past).

That's what happened in the '90 show's "Fast Forward" episode that I mentioned -- it was the fact of the Flash's disappearance from 1991 that produced the dystopian future of 2001, and his return to the present undid it.

Here, I guess they were assuming that since 2017 Barry was always going to go back to his own time, his travel therefore wouldn't alter the future. It's a totally different temporal logic, but it served the story they wanted to tell.


The problem with the use of time travel is why not use it to any tragedy strikes or why did Emo Allen never go back in time to help present day Barry.

They've been explaining that all season. First, Barry's attempt to "fix" the past created Flashpoint, and he was unable to put it back the way it had originally been. Jay scooped him out of the timestream and lectured him on how impossible it was to change the past without unexpected consequences, so he should never do it again. And when Barry went back into the Speed Force recently, the Speed Force consciousnesses told him that they'd allowed him to alter the past that one time, but since he'd abused the privilege, they would no longer permit him to attempt to change the past. (There was even a line about that ban in his jokey "Super Friends" duet with Supergirl the following week.)
 
I guess he's lucky that his hair and fingernails don't grow at superspeed. That could get really annoying really fast.
 
Barry should really be calling Kara in for help with Savitar. Her super-strength and heat vusion should be helpful against Savitar's suit.

I hope the writers remember that Barry needs to defeat two Savitars (unless Savitar exists in some kind of weird time loop). We have the one from the future (who has already been locked up but is now free), and we have the Savitar that still hasn't become Savitar yet.
 
Barry should really be calling Kara in for help with Savitar. Her super-strength and heat vision should be helpful against Savitar's suit.

Her super speed would be pretty helpful as well. But since Savatar is a Flash villain, Barry has to take care of it himself. Same reason why Supergirl does not call Flash to help her when she deals with a big bad villain.

I hope the writers remember that Barry needs to defeat two Savitars (unless Savitar exists in some kind of weird time loop). We have the one from the future (who has already been locked up but is now free), and we have the Savitar that still hasn't become Savitar yet.

If Barry stopped Savatar from before he becomes Savatar, then it would erase the Savatar that escaped from the Speed Force. So he only needs to stop one Savatar. But I suspect that Savatar is in an infinite time loop. This Savatar that escaped will be imprisoned in the Speed Force and then go through the imprisonment and escape that we saw in the previous episodes, over and over again.
 
I think Barry will seek out that scientist that developed the speed force trap, who has a working theory, but this time he has team flash to help out with developing the tech much earlier.
 
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