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The Flash - Final Season Discussion

An okay episode, not great, but with a nice message about how destiny is just the culmination of all our choices throughout our lives. Good to see Dreamer again, but it was pretty contrived that the one person that could help her unlock her new powers was not J'onn or Brainy or Kara, but Iris West-Allen. I was expecting the team-up between them to be a journalistic collaboration, which would've been a more organic way of pairing them off.

Since Nia's dream visions included images of spiders and ravens, I was wondering if the hooded figure was some kind of mythical trickster like Raven and Anansi. I even thought for a second that it might turn out to actually be Raven from Titans.

Weird way for the Mark/Khione thing to come to a head, with a public argument with the bar patrons Greek-chorusing. I was wondering if that part was a dream too. Although the surprising part was the final scene with Khione freezing the brunch spread. I'd been convinced that it was actually Mark who had the ice powers catalyzed by Khione's touch, or that it was some kind of Wonder Twins thing where they only had the power in tandem.

Also, if their drinks had been frozen in their glasses, the ice would surely have been stuck to the glass rather than sliding out so smoothly. And the glass might have cracked from the rapid expansion of the liquid, or from the instant temperature change. (Normally the expansion wouldn't be a problem in an open vessel, since it could expand upward, but if it freezes almost instantly, it would expand almost instantly, and that might be a problem for the glass.)


Nice to see Dreamer back but this is the second episode in a row where they have sidelined the Flash which is a strange thing to do for the final season.

I'm guessing he has a ton of screen time in the climactic episodes and needs the extra time to film them. Back when they did the big annual crossovers, they'd often have episodes preceding or following them where the lead characters barely appeared, to free the actors' schedules for the crossover work.
 
Lovely to see Nia again! The best part of the episode for me was Nia telling Iris that destiny is all about choices. That scene really resonated for me and the actors nailed it.
 
I think I liked this episode more than most people did. I agree having episodes not including The Flash in his own show is still really annoying, but I was much more interested in this episode than the one before. I think it had to do with the fact that it featured Iris and her struggle to not want everything in her life being predetermined. I also didn't watch Supergirl past season 2, and I don't know who this dreamer was but I was fascinated with the character. I still am annoyed that this season of The Flash as being the final season has been such a mess though. Would actually like to see the main character front and center in his final season.
 
I keep wondering why this guy has episodes, and why this guy is in the credits.

Oh, it's because Ralph wants to keep women in cages.
 
I also didn't watch Supergirl past season 2, and I don't know who this dreamer was
:(
but I was fascinated with the character.
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Instead of reading Christopher's wiki, I would strongly suggest catching up with Supergirl. In particular, the show's fourth season, which introduced Nia, was its best season ever, simply a fantastic year for the show and one of the better seasons of superhero TV ever produced.
 
Civilian Nia, and Romantic love life Nia is great.

Dreamer the Superhero has a weird powerset.

Manifesting dream energy in the real world, as 1980s coiled land-line phone cords, as whips.

What tosh!

Can she swing between sky scrapers like Spider-Man?

Legion of Superheroes OG Dream Girl has the power of prophecy and barely the fuck else.

The first Dreamer?

Someone recently watched the episodes of Buffy, where she met the First Slayer.

"Death is your gift."
 
It's true that Nia's powers are pretty random and arbitrary. I don't know WT actual F "dream energy" is supposed to be (and neither do the writers).

The DCU is bound by the emotional spectrum, which several elder being use as a power source for their Lantern Corps.

Blue Lanterns, which are powered by Hope, might use the same sparkles as Dream Energy, because then are both blue.

The true test is if Nia can supercharge a Green Lantern with her shine.
 
I hope he’s more useful here than on WWE Raw. He just stood there while his friend was being beaten up. :)
 
If that episode happened in the 5th or 4th season I probably would have really liked it. I liked it for another episode this season featuring Barry and Iris together but after the last two episodes and this is the final season (or so they say) it was another forgettable show. Also I think I would be really uncomfortable around Cecile. She invades people’s privacy and if I was as introverted as Chester, I would probably leave when she started probing.

Before the season I was looking forward to Oliver being back but now I’m not so sure.

I hope he’s more useful here than on WWE Raw. He just stood there while his friend was being beaten up.

I didn't see Raw, but I don't think I remember all the controversey around a WWE like what I've seen from Monday's show. People are pissed.
 
That was a nice fun episode. I can always enjoy a time travel story set on April 5th.
If that episode happened in the 5th or 4th season I probably would have really liked it. I liked it for another episode this season featuring Barry and Iris together but after the last two episodes and this is the final season (or so they say) it was another forgettable show. Also I think I would be really uncomfortable around Cecile. She invades people’s privacy and if I was as introverted as Chester, I would probably leave when she started probing.

Before the season I was looking forward to Oliver being back but now I’m not so sure.



I didn't see Raw, but I don't think I remember all the controversey around a WWE like what I've seen from Monday's show. People are pissed.
People are just overreacting. The episode was fine. There have been many worse episodes.
 
This was okay, but it was very blatantly a bottle show. They must really be saving up for a big final run of episodes. I mean, not only was the plot specifically about the characters being trapped in one room, but why were Chester and Allegra playing games in Cecile's house when she wasn't there yet?

It was also the most obvious mystery ever. The very first thing the "electrician" said was a dead giveaway that she didn't know a thing about her job. Although they made a token effort to make the others seem suspicious; Mr. Howard knew what a time magnet was called and the British lady knew a lot about the physics.

It made little sense that they needed to cover up the purpose of the Speed Lab. STAR Labs has made little secret over the years of working with Team Flash, and in the comics they're routinely and openly associated with the Flash, Superman, etc. So they should've just said it was where they worked with the Flash to study his powers.

I'm a little disappointed that we didn't actually see Khione and Carla's get-together.
 
What was the Star Trek looking uniform Barry was wearing? Is that supposed to be Flash formal wear?
 
What was the Star Trek looking uniform Barry was wearing? Is that supposed to be Flash formal wear?

It was supposed to be from the future, I guess. And I'm just glad Cisco wasn't there to see the travesty of Iris calling it a Star Wars outfit.
 
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