The First Trailer

[Locutus of Bored]

Why not produce Star Trek porn films? I mean Shatner was shirtless all the time and many women were nearly naked anyway and since Star Trek has to open up for new audiences - porn always works!

Your assignment for your second day on the internet is to Google "This Ain't Star Trek."

 

[Mudd]

Just not at the office!!!

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z4ExfiGK8E[/yt]

 

[ihno]

Just not at the office!!!

Is that from a porn movie? If it is I don't want to see it!

 

[scotthm]

My excitement for this movie just dropped to almost zero. I know trailers can be misleading and I hope this one is, as this is one of the worst trailers I have ever seen.

Yes. If a trailer is intended to heighten one's interest in seeing a film this one has failed miserably.

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[Timewalker]

So let me see if i understand this.
Old guns, Gilbert and Sullivan, 3D movies, lounge singers, popcorn, chewing gum, Sherlock Holmes, the wild west, the alamo, the battle of Britain, James bond, and a whole episode of baseball = Star Trek

Motorbike and rock music = not Star Trek.

The trope of characters being into 20th and 21st century things is present on every incarnation of Star Trek so far. Why is it so out of place here?

Most of what you list are things that are either daydreams, took place on the holodeck, or in a holodeck-type environment. Tom Paris didn't really drive a pickup truck around the corridors of Voyager (they found the truck out in space), and the only time when he drove a 20th century vehicle on a planet was when he was literally in the 20th century.

I have no problem with Kirk having interest in centuries old music or paraphernalia (nor did I have a problem with Tom Paris and his hobbies). Maybe it's because I live in an area of the country where grown men and women take great care to dress up in accurate Civil War era garb and re-enact battles that took place 150 years ago. Its normal around here. I'd never say this to any of them but its a form of cos-play.

And these are not hayseed yahoos spouting things like 'The South will rise again'. These people are leaders in the communities and there are professional people among them. Those uniforms and the accompanying accouterments are expensive.

So yeah, Kirk and his music and his bike, I'm good with it.

I'm into old stuff myself - I used to be active in the Society for Creative Anachronism, but it's not "cos-play". That's what people do when they dress up as a Storm Trooper and go to a science fiction convention (I've attended conventions in costume, but back then we called it "wearing a hall costume" or "entering the Saturday Night costume contest"). Historical re-enactment or re-creation involves research and hands-on creation of items (at least in the SCA; I wouldn't know about Civil War stuff). Some people have turned aspects of their SCA activity into RL paying jobs, when they discovered that other people will pay for things like armour, chainmail jewelry, leather goods, clothing, embroidered textiles, hand-calligraphed documents, and so on.

However... while nuKirk may very well have a hobby to do with 20th century stuff, it's off-putting (to me; this is my own opinion which I am not ascribing to anyone else) to see it in this trailer. It gives the impression that he's still "Captain Frat Boy" who never grew up, and not a mature starship Captain who has grown up.

Who knows, Kirk may be considered the height of culture in his own time. Extremely unlikely, but still....

If that's true, that culture is doomed. If they want to present nuKirk as cultured, he really needs to grow up.

And ProTip®: if you use the term "Abomination" and "Abomination 2" to describe the other nuTrek movies then you're not going to be taken seriously by a majority of people here. It's like going into a DMB forum and saying Under the Table and Dreaming is a worthless waste of an album.

Well, the beauty of living in a society with freedom of speech (or expression, if in Canada) is that I don't have to care if my opinions mesh with the majority of opinions.

It remains to be seen if this one is "Abomination 3" but I'll make that decision after it comes to either Netflix or somewhere where I won't have to pay to see it.

A funny trailer for a random action movie.

Interesting to read how some applaud to anything and call it "Star Trek" as long as someone wrote "Star Trek" on it. Why not produce Star Trek porn films? I mean Shatner was shirtless all the time and many women were nearly naked anyway and since Star Trek has to open up for new audiences - porn always works!

Shatner's shirtless scenes were mostly during fights, Sickbay scenes, or when he was exercising. Or being interrogated. I can only think of two episodes where he was shirtless during a love scene.

NuTrek already did a gratuitous underwear scene.

How am I not part of the core audience for this movie?

Been watching for a long time? Check. Since 1975.
Trek fan? Check.
Owns all the series? Check.
Owns all the movies? Check.
Buys toys? Check.
Buys novels? Check.
Buys comics? Check.

I'm so confused right now.

Well, let's see...

I've been watching since 1975. I'm a Star Trek fan. I don't own all the series. I own the first 6 movies on VHS. I still have the action figures I bought many years ago, plus a few TNG ones. Novels... well, I've cut back on those either because I'm just not interested in TNG and DS9 anymore, not to mention that I already don't have enough shelf space for the books I already have. I used to buy comics, but don't anymore. I do collect TOS-era print fanzines, but have cut back on that too, since the exchange rate is so awful right now.

So apparently that makes me a part of the core audience for nuTrek. Except that I'm not, because I don't like nuTrek.

 

[Mudd]

And straight after being given the directing job, Lin was really going to go running around telling everyone that he'd never watched Star Trek before and knew nothing about the show. . .

There's nothing in that trailer that tells me it's a trailer for a Star Trek film.

So you're calling the man a liar. Boy, "fandom" sure does sink low when it doesn't get what it wants.

I'm saying he was never going to fess up to knowing nothing about Trek, if that was the case. Judging by the trailer, he knew nothing about Trek and still doesn't.

“I thought about how much a part of my life Star Trek was,” Lin said. “Growing up, my parents had this little fish and chips restaurant in Anaheim in the shadows of Disneyland, and they didn’t close until 9 PM. As a family, we didn’t eat dinner until 10 PM, and we would watch the original Star Trek every night at 11. My dad worked 364 days a year, only took Thanksgiving off, and from age 8 to 18, the only time I could hang out with my parents was by staying late. And every night, it was Star Trek on Channel 13 in L.A. That was my childhood. All my friends were Star Wars kids but I didn’t go to the movies, so I was the Star Trek kid. Thinking about this, it became a very personal and very emotional decision.”

That's what Justin Lin has said about his relationship with Star Trek.

 

[scotthm]

I'm okay if Trek has been re-tooled for a mass-market audience. Some will call it a "sell out" - others, such as myself, will know that it will live on if all the seats in the theaters that screen it are "sold out". That will be the true measure of success.

Success is in the eye of the beholder, and if the final film is too much like this trailer I probably won't behold it.

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[Makarov]

But Star Trek was always a bit smaller, a bit more brain-y, and a bit more nerdy.

And unfortunately, that is what doomed TNG movie trek. In today's movie market, that simply does not sell anymore.

But... TNG movies were action movies so I don't see how that doomed them. That's where the whole action hero Picard thing comes from. I'd say it was a matter of marketing and hype and other factors that might not have drawn audiences in to some of them, but they were attempting to get a wider audience just like any other Trek movie.

I think this movie will be a lot more talky than this trailer portrays.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Just not at the office!!!

Is that from a porn movie? If it is I don't want to see it!

I want to show you the full power of the internet and corrupt your innocence. Let me be your Palpatine and your journey toward the dark side will be complete.

 

[Squiggy]

Sorry good movies don't need to be expensive.

Sci-fi ones do.

No, they don't.

*inhales*

Some of my favorite science fiction movies have been indie films like "Another Earth," "Europa Report," "District 9," "Looper" (though that was slightly bigger, with a $30 million budget), "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind," "Cube."

Ok. Fair enough. Movies on this scale, are.

This is the third nuTrek movie. The previous movies had crazy budgets. If this was going to be in the same universe as ST09 and STID, then the budget was going to be at least as big as the last one.

This movie isn't competing with indie films that star Sharlto Copley, it's competing with other blockbusters just as Star Treks 1-Nem competed with the top tier movies of their day.

Getting Neil Bloomkamp to direct Trek would be a bigger change than anything seen in this trailer.

 

[ihno]

Just not at the office!!!

Is that from a porn movie? If it is I don't want to see it!

I want to show you the full power of the internet and corrupt your innocence. Let me be your Palpatine and your journey toward the dark side will be complete.

earlier up get you must. The one with the fake TNG crew I have seen already.

 

[Saul]

A funny trailer for a random action movie.

Interesting to read how some applaud to anything and call it "Star Trek" as long as someone wrote "Star Trek" on it.

Well I was watching Star Trek before TV was even invented! Back then all we had was cave paintings of Star Trek to entertain us and I tell you what Sonny boy, if anyone knows Star Trek then it's some old dust fart like me! And this aint MY star trek!

You can even see in the trailer that the real title of this film is 'Beyond' since those words appear first. So really this is 'Beyond Star Trek' and beyond my patience.

 

[Squiggy]

Tom Paris didn't really drive a pickup truck around the corridors of Voyager (they found the truck out in space), and the only time when he drove a 20th century vehicle on a planet was when he was literally in the 20th century.

Tom has a holodeck program where he worked on cars in a garage and a TV in his quarters.

Well, the beauty of living in a society with freedom of speech (or expression, if in Canada) is that I don't have to care if my opinions mesh with the majority of opinions.

Jesus Christ. I never said you nor anyone else didn't have the "right" to say whatever they wanted (and really, you don't, as this board isn't operated by the Canadian government). I was saying that we have the right to ignore hyperbolic rantings on how the world is ending because Kirk is riding a motorcycle (like in ST09) or how the Beastie Boys is on the soundtrack (like in ST09).

Just because you have the right to say crazy things doesn't mean you should.

 

[Kor]

While I am honestly not a fan of the music, I like how the trailer brings things back full circle to ST09. ST:B looks to be a fitting conclusion to the NuTrek trilogy. (I'm half-joking with that statement, please don't hurt me )

I'm not really sure. People insist that the DB5's inclusion in the film was some kind of direct 50th moment. But Bonds have driven DB5s since Connery before, Craig included.

Yeah, but the way it's handled in the film, it's definitely the film celebrating the series as a whole.

While I liked that moment, I almost immediately found myself thinking, "Wait, he drove this in Casino Royale. Why is it a big deal now?"

Kor

 

[ihno]

Well I was watching Star Trek before TV was even invented! Back then all we had was cave paintings of Star Trek to entertain us and I tell you what Sonny boy, if anyone knows Star Trek then it's some old dust fart like me! And this aint MY star trek!

You can even see in the trailer that the real title of this film is 'Beyond' since those words appear first. So really this is 'Beyond Star Trek' and beyond my patience.

But who painted the cave paintings?

My problem is not the "Star Trek" thing about JJTrek. I simply find it very boring. I watched 09 once in the theatre and that other on when it came on tv. The more CGI action the movies contain the duller they seem to me.

To me reading the discussions is far more entertaining than watching one of those movies.

 

[BillJ]

I've easily seen this trailer twenty times (not counting the early German version). It has hooked me.

 

[Squiggy]

Trailers like this are wearing out my Chromecast.

 

[BillJ]

Trailers like this are wearing out my Chromecast.

I've watched it four times on my 50" 4K TV. I think my family is about ready to make me sleep in the yard!

 

[Mudd]

It did look good on the big screen, yeah - a number of times, last evening.

 

[Saul]

Well I was watching Star Trek before TV was even invented! Back then all we had was cave paintings of Star Trek to entertain us and I tell you what Sonny boy, if anyone knows Star Trek then it's some old dust fart like me! And this aint MY star trek!

You can even see in the trailer that the real title of this film is 'Beyond' since those words appear first. So really this is 'Beyond Star Trek' and beyond my patience.

But who painted the cave paintings?

The great bird of the galaxy.

My problem is not the "Star Trek" thing about JJTrek. I simply find it very boring. I watched 09 once in the theatre and that other on when it came on tv. The more CGI action the movies contain the duller they seem to me.

To me reading the discussions is far more entertaining than watching one of those movies.

Not much of a fan of 09 myself. Loved Into Darkness though. This trailer doesn't get me excited but I was never a fan of planet based episodes and movies... Seeing the hero ship bite the dust early on does not fill me with hope for this film however there are some good bits like Spock and Bones along with Kirk watching the Enterprise crash from the escape pod. We might get some good character moments here, the rest is a bit mindless though.