Spoilers The Falcon and Winter Soldier discussion
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Great that he was nominated but he was only in one scene, so it's a little odd.
For the record, this will be Cheadle's 11th nomination without a win.
https://www.emmys.com/bios/don-cheadle
I had similar reactions to everyone else when Don Cheadle was nominated, but my first thought was actually how did he get a nomination where neither Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan did? I just shrugged and said "that's show business", but apparently it's become a small controversy...
https://www.nickiswift.com/459957/why-don-cheadles-emmy-nomination-is-causing-a-stir/
https://www.emmys.com/bios/don-cheadle
I had similar reactions to everyone else when Don Cheadle was nominated, but my first thought was actually how did he get a nomination where neither Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan did? I just shrugged and said "that's show business", but apparently it's become a small controversy...
https://www.nickiswift.com/459957/why-don-cheadles-emmy-nomination-is-causing-a-stir/
I'd think Sebastian would've been nominated for that scene where him and Ayo are showing he's free of the Winter Soldier programming.
Admittedly, I'm more surprised that Daniel Bruhl and Wyatt Russell didn't get Noms.
Mackie, I suspected wouldn't because he said some stuff that pissed off the Hollywood crowd a while back IIRC.
We already know he won't win?
From The Mandalorian they had Giancarlo Esposito nominated as "Supporting" actor, and Carl Weathers as "Guest" actor (against Cheadle). Not sure how they define Guest vs Supporting. But if Weathers is counted as "Guest", it does seem like the screen time Cheadle had is very different. I guess they could have a "Best Cameo" category. But they don't.
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I'd have thrown Lumbly in for the nomination over Cheadle. I read that apparently D+ put him up for supporting but he didn't get it.
The nominations as a whole seem rather wack though. Maybe since I've actually seen some of the shows nominated for once but some of the choices seem rather dubious.
The nominations as a whole seem rather wack though. Maybe since I've actually seen some of the shows nominated for once but some of the choices seem rather dubious.
Lumbly was in three episodes so there was no way he could be just a guest. Weathers was also only in one episode in season two of The Mandalorian.
A shame Lumbly didn't get the supporting actor nod, however.
A shame Lumbly didn't get the supporting actor nod, however.
Eh, it probably would have come off better if he wasn’t saying this about a terrorist who had people burned alive and most of her plans after that involved murdering people.
He wasn't defending the terrorist actions though--he was criticizing the root causes of the actions, something that would benefit everyone if politicians did this more frequently. Most terrorist causes in the Middle East have their roots in post WWII divisions of territory, which were not based in actual cultural/historical understandings. More recently, the basis of ISIS was in the disenfranchised who had been displaced following military actions in the Middle East, actions based in a response to 9/11 again without a firm grasp or understanding of the cultural/historical dynamics. If the military had actually paid attention to the scholars back in 2003, some of that could have been lessened.
In short, Sam's speech (albeit written in a preachy and simplistic manner) was on target.
Which would be fine if
A) Sam hadn't been acting like Karli Morgenthau was some tragic martyr and not the budding super villain she actually sounded like.
B) This was in regards to an issue CAUSED BY THE AVENGERS.
Yeah unkilling everyone Thanos snapped was nice but the Avengers sure seemed fine dumping the aftermath of that one everyone else without bothering to help much so its a bit hypocritical to star yelling at the people that had to deal with it for not doing so in a way they liked.
A) She was. She was only provoked into her actions by the GRC's incompetence.
B) The Avengers ceased to exist after the Blip, Tony and Nat paid for it with their lives and Banner's been crippled. The Governments could have asked for assistance from anyone left but figured it would be easier to treat others inhumanely.
I could go with a New Avengers line-up of Captain Falcon, Bucky, Kate-Hawkeye, an extra-dimensional Pietro, a somewhat saner Wanda, and a Vision desperately in need of some green and yellow Sharpies.
She was a tragic villain, but definitely still a villain. She toasted tied up guards and threatened children (Sam's niece and nephew).
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They've changed two scenes in episode 3.
In the scene where Nagel is killed they've removed the blood, and closed his eyes, and there is a fight scene later where Bucky throws a pipe through the shoulder of one of the people he's fighting, but now it bounces off of them instead.
It seems kind of weird and random to make these changes so long after the episode was originally released. I wonder if maybe somebody complained or something.
In the scene where Nagel is killed they've removed the blood, and closed his eyes, and there is a fight scene later where Bucky throws a pipe through the shoulder of one of the people he's fighting, but now it bounces off of them instead.
It seems kind of weird and random to make these changes so long after the episode was originally released. I wonder if maybe somebody complained or something.
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