The European Football Season 15/16
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True - there were more than a few decisions that even to my unpracticed eye seemed a little "off". I find the officiating in football to be infuriating anyway, which I guess is inevitable because they have to make so many judgment calls while dealing with grown men who apparently collapse like babies any time they feel someone breathing on them.
Thank the Founders for my low neckline dress. Like Weyoun I'm a special clone. Unfortunately my Jemmies don't appreciate football. No drinks, no football, no women, no sleep, no games.... I need a respite
I think I have seen Jedi Master in the FIFA Worldcup Brazil thread. But hux was nowhere to be seen. I wasn't around at that time either.
I've only just discovered there are forums other than the Voyager forum on here. I certainly didn't think there'd be an audience for football. I tend to use actual footy forums for tourneys.
We can turn the tide though. Five years from now, this whole forum will be called Trek & Footy BBS.
We can turn the tide though. Five years from now, this whole forum will be called Trek & Footy BBS.
Everyone seems to want Klopp. Liverpool are the more likely candidates (Rodgers is a dead man walking) but I think Klopp's management style would definitely suit Arsenal more.
Over a decade without winning the league is making even the most ardent Wenger supporter question him.
Guardiola's tiki-taka would also work at Arsenal but City seem favourites there.
I used to be a huge fan of "Kloppo" but last season really made me doubt a bit. I realize it's not fair to judge him over one sub-par season but it just seemed obvious that his whole approach is just based on a very exhausting, high-energy pressing style that only works when you've got a bunch of good young players.
As soon as you lose some to injury or they get older (their workload decreasing) he runs into issues because his teams just aren't good at managing a game, changing the pace, lowering the rhythm when necessary. His teams always go 100% and you just can't do that over many years.
At the start of his tenure in Dortmund they were the only team in Germany playing that style. By last season there were a bunch of other, younger teams who were trying the same... beating Dortmund.
Tuchel on the other hand is a much more Guardiola-style manager in his approach to tactics (which probably isn't surprising considering he actually talks about studying Guardiola's style and talking to Pep).
Anyway, not to take anything away from Klopp, he's certainly a really good manager. I had to laugh when Ciro Immobile complained about how little Dortmund practiced tactics under Klopp. While it's probably true that German teams pay less attention to tactics than the tactics-obsessed Italian teams that little anecdote was probably more down to Immobile speaking fuck all German.
That was really one of the most ridiculous transfers of the season. Immobile kept complaining that the Germans are all so cold, and that nobody is inviting him to their house for dinner (I wonder: Did he?) and I'm just thinking: Dude, you moved abroad and you didn't bother to learn German. Heck, you don't even speak English. What the hell did you expect?
And now that I'm rambling anyway: The fascinating and amusing book Soccernomics made some great points about how teams buy players for tens of millions of Euro yet almost none of the clubs employs a relocation assistant who helps the players settle, learn the language, find a house, and so on. You spend millions on a huge risk... and then you don't bother minimizing that risk? Seems really stupid.
As soon as you lose some to injury or they get older (their workload decreasing) he runs into issues because his teams just aren't good at managing a game, changing the pace, lowering the rhythm when necessary. His teams always go 100% and you just can't do that over many years.
At the start of his tenure in Dortmund they were the only team in Germany playing that style. By last season there were a bunch of other, younger teams who were trying the same... beating Dortmund.
Tuchel on the other hand is a much more Guardiola-style manager in his approach to tactics (which probably isn't surprising considering he actually talks about studying Guardiola's style and talking to Pep).
Anyway, not to take anything away from Klopp, he's certainly a really good manager. I had to laugh when Ciro Immobile complained about how little Dortmund practiced tactics under Klopp. While it's probably true that German teams pay less attention to tactics than the tactics-obsessed Italian teams that little anecdote was probably more down to Immobile speaking fuck all German.
That was really one of the most ridiculous transfers of the season. Immobile kept complaining that the Germans are all so cold, and that nobody is inviting him to their house for dinner (I wonder: Did he?) and I'm just thinking: Dude, you moved abroad and you didn't bother to learn German. Heck, you don't even speak English. What the hell did you expect?
And now that I'm rambling anyway: The fascinating and amusing book Soccernomics made some great points about how teams buy players for tens of millions of Euro yet almost none of the clubs employs a relocation assistant who helps the players settle, learn the language, find a house, and so on. You spend millions on a huge risk... and then you don't bother minimizing that risk? Seems really stupid.
Klopp has been built up so much in England, I fear he wouldn't live up to expectations. Seems like a nice chap though.
What does his surname mean in Italian because a striker being called "immobile" is kinda hilarious. I tried Google translate and that came up with "motionless" which is essentially the same thing (though slightly more hilarious perhaps).
What does his surname mean in Italian because a striker being called "immobile" is kinda hilarious. I tried Google translate and that came up with "motionless" which is essentially the same thing (though slightly more hilarious perhaps).
Yup, it means exactly that and it is indeed hilarious.
The Ropey League tonight. A competition Uefa have done everything they can to undermine and make pointless.
BUT... there's still some fun to be had.
Is it a Europa League Team or a Game of Thrones Location?
12/17
BUT... there's still some fun to be had.
Is it a Europa League Team or a Game of Thrones Location?
12/17
I went into that thinking "Ha, this is gonna be easy. I know footie and I've read Game of Thrones!"
11/17.
11/17.
Well, Bosman worked, too.
I really have no idea if it's gonna work out. I also can't really imagine the consequences.
Transfer fee or not, the big clubs will still have their pick of the best players based on the wages they can offer.
The transfer system needs looking at but this won't make any serious difference (other than wages). Everyone knew Ronaldo would be going to Madrid but Ronaldo signed a new contract with United so that the club would make some money from the move. De Gea has just done the same thing and signed a new contract despite almost certainly moving to Madrid next year.
If players can leave without a fee to compensate the club then you'll end up with a tiny group of elite clubs that take all the best players, offer the highest wages and win all the trophies.
Which is pretty much what we've got anyway but at least under the current system, the little clubs make some money from the transfer. So basically, removing transfers will simply screw the little clubs.
The transfer system needs looking at but this won't make any serious difference (other than wages). Everyone knew Ronaldo would be going to Madrid but Ronaldo signed a new contract with United so that the club would make some money from the move. De Gea has just done the same thing and signed a new contract despite almost certainly moving to Madrid next year.
If players can leave without a fee to compensate the club then you'll end up with a tiny group of elite clubs that take all the best players, offer the highest wages and win all the trophies.
Which is pretty much what we've got anyway but at least under the current system, the little clubs make some money from the transfer. So basically, removing transfers will simply screw the little clubs.
