the dumb questions you were afraid to ask thread

[indranee]

where's the bathroom on the TOS bridge? don't tell me you've got to get into the turbolift.

 

[captcalhoun]

Red: because you don't need one. no-one seems to carry a hankie. there's no money, no wallets, or mobiles, so what do you need pockets for?

indranee: alright, i won't...

 

[Frodo Lives]

Why don't Starfleet uniforms have pockets by the 23rd/24th centuries??

Who says they didn't? The original idea for the Spandex uniforms of the 24th century at least, was that everything, even the clothing, in the future was seamless. Meaning there were places you could open the uniform up, but you just couldn't see them because of super advanced fabric/zipper system.

No in reality, this clearly didn't work so well because we CAN see seams on the uniforms, but a good example of what they intended is in the TNG episode Ensign Ro, where the titular character opens up the front of her uniform, takes it off and drapes it around a little refugee girl.

So, maybe the reason we can't see the pockets is that they're covered up by some invisible seam.

I'm not sure if Roddenberry, etc actually intended the same system for the 23th century Starfleeters, but it would provide a good explanation there too.

Where's the bathroom on the TOS bridge? don't tell me you've got to get into the turbolift.

Turns out Sulu was into some weeeeeeiiirrd shit, man.

 

[Vanyel]

captcalhoun said:
Red: because you don't need one. no-one seems to carry a hankie. there's no money, no wallets, or mobiles, so what do you need pockets for?

Doesn't the remind you of the Eddie Murphy joke about marring a women from Africa who didn't have pockets, because if she did, she'd want something to put in them?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Alidar Jarok said:
They were civilian ships, iirc

Perhaps. The Vulcan ships were never actually said to be civilian. They could have been part of Vulcan's native military fleet.

Especially since the Vulcan ships from ENT were (retroactively) based on them. And ENT's Vulcan ships were military, so...

 

[Peacemaker]

DarthTom said:

Apogeal Alpha01 said:
While computers will be faster exponentially, they are also apparently smart AI's that not only sift through centuries of data from billions of sources, (as opposed to mere decade or two currently, retrieving information by matching key words,) but also reach conclusions based on an analysis of the available data. So, computers of tomorrow will approach the task of data retrieval similarly, but perform cognitive processes on a much faster scale. As the tool becomes more sophisticated, what we ask it to do will as well.

BS. I'll give you an example. In TNG first year, episode, Naked Now [the episode where the crew suffers from the illness similar from TOS where people are 'drunk like] Riker asks the main computer to do a search for "Enterprise, Jim Kirk, illnesses, drunk like behavior' and the computer responds back, that it will take [hours[/b] to complete that.

OK, I just did the same search on Google and it took less than 5 seconds to match.

Don't tell me that according to canon that computer technology hasn't de-evolved - because obviously it has.

Yes, well, that's because the Ent-D hadn't had its computer core upgraded by the Binars...and it was running MS Vista 24C.0 on only 1 million Gigs of RAM

 

[Peacemaker]

Here's one:

The NX 01 had a galley with a cook.

The 1701 had food dispensers.

The 1701 D was using food replicators.

The 1701 A had a galley.

So, what's up with the 1701 and A...we went from food dispensers/replicators to a galley with cooks? So much for the technological upgrades, or was the food dispenser really a case of inputing what you want on a card then the galley beaming it up to the alcove?

 

[AdmiralGarak]

The dispensers may have been an ancestor of replicators, with a preset and very limited menu. They may have only provided a heavilly processed equivilent of modern Astronauts freeze-dried food-- namely, those colored cubes, celery, and coffee that everyone always was eating. When you wanted a real meal on a 23rd Century Starship, though, you had to get it from the galley.

Or, maybe it was simply the Federation equivilent of Thanksgiving during the events of Star Trek VI and the crew was preparing a special home-cooked turkey dinner for the occasion.

 

[captcalhoun]

if you pay attention during INS, the E-E also has a chef as Picard says can he whip up a salad with a balsamic vinegrette for the Evora after they start eating the flowers

 

[WillsBabe]

^ Really? I must go back and watch that film.

 

[Red Ranger]

captcalhoun said:
Red: because you don't need one. no-one seems to carry a hankie. there's no money, no wallets, or mobiles, so what do you need pockets for?

indranee: alright, i won't...

Not even to carry self-sealing stembolts?

 

[JD]

AdmiralGarak said:
The dispensers may have been an ancestor of replicators, with a preset and very limited menu. They may have only provided a heavilly processed equivilent of modern Astronauts freeze-dried food-- namely, those colored cubes, celery, and coffee that everyone always was eating. When you wanted a real meal on a 23rd Century Starship, though, you had to get it from the galley.

Or, maybe it was simply the Federation equivilent of Thanksgiving during the events of Star Trek VI and the crew was preparing a special home-cooked turkey dinner for the occasion.

I was thinking the second option is pretty likely. They probably use replicators/dispensors during day to day meals, but do have chefs on board to cook real food for special occaisions. So if is the case, I wonder what the chefs would do when it wasn't a special occaisions? Perhaps they're just regular crewmembers who can cook?

 

[greenmystik]

There was only a galley on the E-A because the writers needed someway to tie in the stupid "phaser set on disintegrate" security alarm.

 

[JD]

That probaly would be the real world version, but that still brings up the question of the in-universe version.

 

[Sisu]

They were on a Diplomatic mission, so they had a crewed galley? Because nothing says diplomacy like a home cooked meal.

 

[greenmystik]

Who's to say the the E-D didn't have a galley. Everyone's assuming that there wasn't one when there very well could have been.

Just like with the restrooms. They were never mentioned or seen but they have to exist unless the have eradicated the need to relieve oneself.

 

[Sisu]

If there were no bathrooms, no wonder they were boldly going where no one had gone before!

ok, I'm just bladdering on now, I'll stop.

 

[JD]

I though it said somewhere where the Ent-D's bathrooms are. Maybe in a tech manual or something?

 

[greenmystik]

I don't remember it saying anything like that.

 

[Jamee999]

Alyssa said:
If vulcans supress their emotion becouse they used to be really violent and paranoid why do they supress all emotion like love and happiness instead of just the bad ones? I mean with therepy ( or in the case of vulcans meditation ) humans can supress their violent emotions or at least channel them ito possitive aspects like dedication, I would just think that with their superior minds they could aclompish the same!

"Love is the most dangerous emotion of all"