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I need to read up on it more but all I see from the No camp is fear mongering. I'll be voting yes because progress doesn't have to be perfect and representation is always progress. Once you enshrine something you build on that.

I was watching the Women's Soccer World Cup (YES i WATCHED A SPORT, THERE WAS BEER INVOLVED) and I was impressed that the signs on the fences around the pitch (wait.. field?) had Melbourne Narrm on them. I don't know if that's always the case but I was impressed. I guess I am out of touch as I assumed the usage of Melbourne's indigenous name was mostly in the realm of hipster instagram, I had not seen it used "officially".
 
I need to read up on it more but all I see from the No camp is fear mongering. I'll be voting yes because progress doesn't have to be perfect and representation is always progress. Once you enshrine something you build on that.

I was watching the Women's Soccer World Cup (YES i WATCHED A SPORT, THERE WAS BEER INVOLVED) and I was impressed that the signs on the fences around the pitch (wait.. field?) had Melbourne Narrm on them. I don't know if that's always the case but I was impressed. I guess I am out of touch as I assumed the usage of Melbourne's indigenous name was mostly in the realm of hipster instagram, I had not seen it used "officially".

More people need to vote yes as it looks like failing and there won't be another referendum according to Albonese
 
What's the level of information the average person gets on this referendum? I don't watch regular tv. Are there informative ads? Everyone I talk to is confused about what it means and what will change.
 
Aboriginal names are becoming more official as time goes on.

Example, Mt Panorama in Bathurst is now officially named Mt Panorama/Wahluu
 
What's the level of information the average person gets on this referendum? I don't watch regular tv. Are there informative ads? Everyone I talk to is confused about what it means and what will change.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...more-australians-still-in-favour-than-against

There is a link on that page to a tracker to look at polling results. Lack of information is what is making people uncertain. I don't know how New Zealand did it for themselves but if they can do it so can we.
 
As for the Voice, as I said, I see who's against it, and follow my instinct. From what I have read, it's like an advisory committee, explaining to us gubbas what we don't know about the history and culture of the land. Which trees are sacred and which not. Where the graves are, Where the sacred caves with ancient art are (think Juukun Gorge) so they aren't wiped out. Now, they can't order those things stopped, but they can strongly advise the Government, and the Govt can weigh up both sides, and act accordingly. They don't have this power to throw farmers off their land, which is the scare campaign in West Australia says right now. No actual power, all they has is a Government that will listen. When the LNP gets back in, fuck knows.
 
As for the Voice, as I said, I see who's against it, and follow my instinct. From what I have read, it's like an advisory committee, explaining to us gubbas what we don't know about the history and culture of the land. Which trees are sacred and which not. Where the graves are, Where the sacred caves with ancient art are (think Juukun Gorge) so they aren't wiped out. Now, they can't order those things stopped, but they can strongly advise the Government, and the Govt can weigh up both sides, and act accordingly. They don't have this power to throw farmers off their land, which is the scare campaign in West Australia says right now. No actual power, all they has is a Government that will listen. When the LNP gets back in, fuck knows.


But NZ managed to do this without the country falling into chaos
 
I was on my daily walk when I saw a large NO sign on a letter box. My hopes lifted because I thought it was a ‘No stadium’ sign but when I got closer and was able to read the smaller writing it said ‘No vote’ and I was disheartened :(
 
Last Monday was the 200th anniversary of the arrival of my ancestor, William Figg, to Van Diemans Land. Three years later he married Margaret Smith who was the daughter of free settlers, Mary and Robert Smith.
William and Margaret has two sons and three daughters. His younger son, Henry, married twice and had a total of 20 children, 10 of each marriage. My grandmother was the 17th child.
To celebrate the 200th anniversary we had a family reunion spread over 4 days. About 90 people attended overall. On Sunday there was a book launch for a bio of William Figg written by my half second cousin, once removed, Steven Figg. The book is high quality, very well researched, with many photos and excellent footnotes. I should finish reading it sometime today.

photo of the descendants who attended the book launch, most of them were descendants of Henry though some were descendants of William’s youngest daughter, Ann.


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