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Spoilers The Doctor Falls (Grade & Discussion Thread)
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Okay, no biggie, chill. I found their reactions amusing. You don't have to watch them.
I bet she has something hidden up her sonic brolly. She said she didn't remember, but to paraphrase, the Master always lies.
Okay, no biggie, chill. I found their reactions amusing. You don't have to watch them.
I don't think that he was actively preventing her regeneration, I believe that the laser screw driver killed her so hard, that she was too dead to regenerate.
Yeah, the altered timeline in Turn Left established that the Doctor could be prevented from regenerating if he "died too quickly", not giving the process time to start (though once it HAS started, actual clinical death can be reversed as it was in the TV movie).
Oooh careful there..... Are you saying the TV movie is cannon?
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I really hope that the Master is finally dead. Not that I want him gone, mind you. I just feel like the story ended perfectly. Of course it killed itself. It's the Masteress. That's what it does. Missy got her redemption and I don't think we need to see more than that. The character's been around for like 46 years. People change and their stories have an end.
Geoffrey Beevers is still kicking.
And once he's in full make up, it won't look like he's aged a day since the Keeper of Traken.
Beevers played a UNIT Private in the Ambassadors of Death, unless he didn't? Maybe he played a younger version of his Master, before the 1st degree burns, who wanted to hang out with sergeant Benton and get ratarsed on a Friday night?
And once he's in full make up, it won't look like he's aged a day since the Keeper of Traken.
Beevers played a UNIT Private in the Ambassadors of Death, unless he didn't? Maybe he played a younger version of his Master, before the 1st degree burns, who wanted to hang out with sergeant Benton and get ratarsed on a Friday night?
Sadly, this is a classic example of a story being "good" because the characters and acting are AMAZING and the plot is kind of pants.
I loved it, but I hate that I loved it. If not for Missy, The Master, and the Doctor, this would have been total rubbish.
I loved it, but I hate that I loved it. If not for Missy, The Master, and the Doctor, this would have been total rubbish.
I was, I am, I know.
Well the overnight figures are in and it's a 3.75m.
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2017/07/the-doctor-falls-overnight-viewing.html
Whilst it might seem low the highest overnight figure was only 4.05m and DW usually gets a good bump from catchup.
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2017/07/the-doctor-falls-overnight-viewing.html
Whilst it might seem low the highest overnight figure was only 4.05m and DW usually gets a good bump from catchup.
I hope Neroon, Spiff & Timby don't object to my slipping in a bit of fan art. It does at least tangently tie into the episode, maybe more so with the Christmas special if the speculation that it partially takes place during the events of "The Tenth Planet" prove true.
The base figure was one modeled and rigged by someone from the (now sadly "dormant") Who3D restoration team, a group that years ago had planned to recreate missing footage. While I was never part of the core team, I did interact upon its forums which allowed me access to the occasional digital "goodie".
I believe the base figure was made by either "Nod" or "Cliff Bowman", the original lead of the group. the chest unit and weapon was offered by Adam Bullock upon his Anim8or site. If the figure seems a bit "retro", well, it was made when Poser 4 was still the latest edition, thus dating it maybe 15 years old. But I tried to spruce up the figure with the newer procedural material nodes that are not as dependent upon the simplistic planar mapping...where UV coordinates were even applied. I also swapped out the low polygon hands for more realistic models having flexed tendons and fingernails. I subdivided and "lofted" the paldrons (shoulder plates) to be smoother and possess actual thickness. The environment is a purchase item by AntFarm using displacement maps to create the snow.
They said it both ways during the episode- he *will* regenerate into her, of course, but there's no guarantee when, because she's hazy on it. Theythen just shorten it to an assumption that that she's next, but there's no direct confirmation of it.
A Time Lord can't regenerate if he or she is dead - that's been established lots of times. Dead people tend not to crawl around laughing, though...
And, again, the Master has been definitively killed off so many times that, really, it just doesn't even count...
I did not say that she was already dead, I said that she was dying, ie in the process of becoming dead.
Yes, the Master is the real highlight of the finale despite being utterly irrelevant to the plot.
With regards to time dilation, the Master's two clocks show 2 days for the control room at the top and 365030 for the city at the bottom. That's a ratio of 182515 across 400 miles, so 456.3 per mile. This is all calculated very roughly, of course.
What bothers me is that the people and the Cybermen were fighting their way up the ship - towards the singularity. Surely it would make more sense to punch downwards and try to escape altogether.
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Many ways Missy could have survived. an obvious way is something we have already seen: The Cybermen could have found her just recently dead (like they did with Bill earlier on top of the ship) and took her down the nearby lift to level 1056 and fixed her, but in the process to turn her into a Cyberman she escapes and possibly regenerates to reject the cybernetic parts she may have received that brought her back to life.
"Clinically dead" is even less dead for a Time Lord than it is for a human. Remember "Heaven Sent"? Time Lord wakes where they have to wait for the flies to come before they're sure, the Doctor still moving days after being killed, and commenting that when his people die among aliens, they tend to be buried before they've actually passed.
As for "Turn Left," I always assumed the Doctor regenerated at least once after being killed in the flood, and then died again. The UNIT doctor says it must've been too fast for him, but we never saw who was under that sheet, and the Tenth Doctor hadn't encountered UNIT at that point (though "Day" showed they were pretty on-the-ball with keeping an eye on him).
The Master has died "for good" multiple times just like the Daleks and the Cybermen. Missy will be back in some form eventually.
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