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The Destruction of Romulus!?

From the film Hearts of the West...

If a person saying he was something was all there was to it, this country'd be full of rich men and good-looking women. Kings and queens... you know what I mean? Too bad it isn't that easy. In short, when someone else says you're a writer, that's when you're a writer... not before.
 
I never quite understood the decision to destroy both Romulus and Vulcan. Talk about limiting your storyline potential.

Since each planet was destroyed in a different timeline, that really doesn't apply. ;)

Good point.

Romulus was destroyed in the Prime universe. Vulcan was destroyed in the nuUniverse.

And destroying Vulcan arguably creates as many story possibilities as it closes while making it crystal clear that this is a whole new STAR TREK where anything can happen.

What could be less limiting than that?
 
After watching Generations which I later felt was a mistake, considering that it just didn't have the same story quality as TNG or the TIS movies. So I stopped watching Star Trek movies. Now that I'm getting ready to launch a new series of my own in this universe, I joined here to do some research into what fans want and to get some exposure to the target audience. Hype, I think is the right word. But upon arriving here I saw someone make a reference to the destruction of Romulus as though this was common knowledge. Am I missing something here? And if it is, is it important? Thanks.:rommie:

I would suggest watching all the movies, including the JJ ones. Just suck it up, and you'll be fine!

It's fiction. Do whatever you want. JJ did. He took over and the first thing he does is kill Spocks mom, Kirks dad and blow up Romulus and Vulcan. Take a page from his book, and do what you want.

Just say your story is set in a quantum reality where Romulus was never destroyed. Simple as that.

As I am totally discounting everything that occurred in Abrams movies and have limited resources for getting a hold of the movies right now I'll just go with that plan of Nemisis was the last real Star Trek film that ever happened.

I would only do that if you are pitching a Star Trek reboot. In which case the decks are clear to tell whatever story you want. A new third timeline/universe.

But if you say that it is set in the Prime universe, than that is all the events from Broken Bow in 2151 thru Nemesis to the departure of Spock and Nero in 2387.

All of it. Including ST V, A Night In Sickbay, Omega Glory, Threshold, the Son'a and Romulus getting blown up? Yep, all of it. The good, the bad and the ugly.
 
I am constantly amused by those who think that somehow, someway, they are going to change Trek back to "the way they want it"! The post (and his/her follow up posts) does nothing but scream "True Fan", "True Trek" horseshit.

If the OP has no knowledge of ST09, then I seriously doubt he/she'll have any chance at all of getting even a glance from CBS and TPTB.

It's just another "Abrams raped my childhood" waaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

For some reason all the Trek movies with the exception of Nemesis are no longer available for streaming. If anyone can figure out the logic of this, please let me know.

No idea on the logic, but it's also worth noting that the availability of titles is also different in different countries. My netflix offers Star Trek (09) and Insurrection, but nothing else.
 
And I think for the most part ignoring everything he did is probably for the best.

Not if you want to deal with CBS, it isn't. They make a huge amount of cash from those films.

Firstly Paramount is responsible in full for the movies. I don't think CBS gets any money from them.

Secondly CBS made a ton of money off all the other Star Treks and still let Rick Berman and Brannon Braga ignore 98% of all other Trek when they were doing enterprise. I think it may work. If I have to acknowledge it this thread has helped me make a plan. Hopefully I won't have to use it.
 
Firstly Paramount is responsible in full for the movies. I don't think CBS gets any money from them.

My copy of the "Star Trek" (2009) and "Into Darkness" Blu-Ray four-disk set carries logos for Spyglass, Bad Robot, Skydance and Paramount, and in small print advises that "Star Trek" and related marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc.

still let Rick Berman and Brannon Braga ignore 98% of all other Trek when they were doing enterprise

Ummm, no they didn't. Except for a few minor glitches, every variation to pedantic fan expectation of canon (and "fanon") was able to be explained away, or was specifically addressed in later episodes.
 
Just to put things into perspective, CBS makes something like $20 million a year from Star Trek merchandise based on the original show. The last movie made almost $500 million. :)
 
Thank you all for the hard criticism. Unfortunately my connection to internet is highly limited and viewing the movies that way is not an option for me. Why I started this thread. Perhaps I should start one in X+. Asking in more detail about what occurs in twenty three eighty seven the year my work begins in. As for the mistakes of Enterprise was it ever explained why the ship was hosting an alien doctor when it was a United Earth starship like Kirk's Enterprise was at first?
 
Thank you all for the hard criticism. Unfortunately my connection to internet is highly limited and viewing the movies that way is not an option for me.
Get Netflix and get the DVDs mailed to you then.


As for the mistakes of Enterprise was it ever explained why the ship was hosting an alien doctor when it was a United Earth starship like Kirk's Enterprise was at first?

If you would have watched Star Trek in the past two decades....yes, it was explained.

You could at lease Google these questions. The internet is much more robust than it was when Generations came out.
 
I have tried to read synopsises online about the stories. I couldn't make heads or tails of the ST09 one however.

Netflix isn't an option, unfortunately. Got another sugestion? I know. I'll Google those questions. See what pops up.
 
Thank you emphatically for this suggestion!! :techman: I Googled it as suggested and a new intro to the series is formulating in my head that I think is far better than the pilot I initially wrote. I think it should work much better now! Thanks!
 
Streaming services like Amazon Prime and Hulu have the movies. You can watch them right on your computer. Amazon Prime is free for the first month. Sign up, watch all the movies, but don't continue after 30 days if money is an issue. Although I have to question how that can be if you have enough money to pay for an Internet connection. I also have to question how you think you're going to talk to CBS about pitching a Trek series when you have no knowledge of the last 20 years of Star Trek.
 
Firstly Paramount is responsible in full for the movies. I don't think CBS gets any money from them.

You do realize that CBS owns Star Trek and Paramount pays a licensing fee to them for the rights to make the films?

Secondly CBS made a ton of money off all the other Star Treks and still let Rick Berman and Brannon Braga ignore 98% of all other Trek when they were doing enterprise. I think it may work. If I have to acknowledge it this thread has helped me make a plan. Hopefully I won't have to use it.

They actually didn't break "canon" hardly at all. What they broke were fan assumptions about what went on during those years. Give you a guess which one CBS cares nothing about...
 
I remember there being guidelines for first time writers, pitching to the various shows. One of the first rules was to put the universe back the way you found it when pitching a story. I think Pocket Books has the same rule.
 
Another guideline is probably "know what in the hell you're talking about."
 
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