The Destruction of Romulus!?

[T'Girl]

^ No more than any of the fiction.

In All Good Things, Data does says "There was an outbreak of Terrellian plague on Romulus."

While the episode includes some differences from what was established in the TNG movies timeline (Picard told the senior officers about future events), would a natural event like a supernova be one of the changes?

 

[Dukhat]

While the episode includes some differences from what was established in the TNG movies timeline, would a natural event like a supernova be one of the changes?

Sure, if in the AGT timeline Spock was able to shoot the Red Matter into the Hobus star in time to save Romulus from destruction.

Plus, while in Star Trek '09 it was implied that the supernova was a natural event, the novelverse and videogameverse establish it to be artificially created. So in the AGT timeline perhaps the ones responsible for it were not able to carry it out.

 

[Nebusj]

So you think you're making a series of your own set in the Star Trek universe, but you haven't seen any Star Trek made in the last twenty years?

Yeah, good luck with that.

So ... he has no knowledge of ``A Night In Sickbay'', and he's the unfortunate one?

 

[DonIago]

^Well-played.

 

[Melakon]

There is no destruction of Romulus in films I-X, so the question doesn't belong in this forum.

 

[Tarek71]

After watching Generations which I later felt was a mistake, considering that it just didn't have the same story quality as TNG or the TIS movies. So I stopped watching Star Trek movies. Now that I'm getting ready to launch a new series of my own in this universe, I joined here to do some research into what fans want and to get some exposure to the target audience. Hype, I think is the right word. But upon arriving here I saw someone make a reference to the destruction of Romulus as though this was common knowledge. Am I missing something here? And if it is, is it important? Thanks.

I would suggest watching all the movies, including the JJ ones. Just suck it up, and you'll be fine!

It's fiction. Do whatever you want. JJ did. He took over and the first thing he does is kill Spocks mom, Kirks dad and blow up Romulus and Vulcan. Take a page from his book, and do what you want.

Just say your story is set in a quantum reality where Romulus was never destroyed. Simple as that.

 

[Esirprus]

After watching Generations which I later felt was a mistake, considering that it just didn't have the same story quality as TNG or the TIS movies. So I stopped watching Star Trek movies. Now that I'm getting ready to launch a new series of my own in this universe, I joined here to do some research into what fans want and to get some exposure to the target audience. Hype, I think is the right word. But upon arriving here I saw someone make a reference to the destruction of Romulus as though this was common knowledge. Am I missing something here? And if it is, is it important? Thanks.

I would suggest watching all the movies, including the JJ ones. Just suck it up, and you'll be fine!

It's fiction. Do whatever you want. JJ did. He took over and the first thing he does is kill Spocks mom, Kirks dad and blow up Romulus and Vulcan. Take a page from his book, and do what you want.

Just say your story is set in a quantum reality where Romulus was never destroyed. Simple as that.

As I am totally discounting everything that occurred in Abrams movies and have limited resources for getting a hold of the movies right now I'll just go with that plan of Nemisis was the last real Star Trek film that ever happened.

 

[Esirprus]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

 

[Esirprus]

So you think you're making a series of your own set in the Star Trek universe, but you haven't seen any Star Trek made in the last twenty years?

Yeah, good luck with that.

To be fair, he said he only hadn't seen any films past Generations, not that he hadn't seen anything.

I have watched all Star Trek that is convenient to watch and doesn't scream non-cannon that got passed CBS. I know a slightly conceded attitude on my part. But as I was working in the prime universe I wanted the strong foothold that I have now obtained on where it's going before worrying about Abrams size 23 foot that he put in the mouth of Star Trek. And I think for the most part ignoring everything he did is probably for the best.

 

[BillJ]

And I think for the most part ignoring everything he did is probably for the best.

Not if you want to deal with CBS, it isn't. They make a huge amount of cash from those films.

 

[Dukhat]

I have watched all Star Trek that is convenient to watch and doesn't scream non-cannon that got passed CBS. I know a slightly conceded attitude on my part. But as I was working in the prime universe I wanted the strong foothold that I have now obtained on where it's going before worrying about Abrams size 23 foot that he put in the mouth of Star Trek. And I think for the most part ignoring everything he did is probably for the best.

The first rule of a writer is: Know your material. If you deliberately pick and choose what's only convenient for your story and ignore the rest, then no one is going to take your work seriously, because you aren't taking Trek seriously.

Example: Almost every Star Trek fan universally despises ENTERPRISE's final episode. However, the Trek novel writers couldn't just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, as much as they probably wanted to. So they worked around it.

It's fiction. Do whatever you want. JJ did. He took over and the first thing he does is kill Spocks mom, Kirks dad and blow up Romulus and Vulcan. Take a page from his book, and do what you want.

And the reason Abrams could do all that was because he set his story in an alternate universe (and it made more money than any Trek film that came before it.) According to you, you want your story set in the original prime universe. So my advice to you is to do like what Tarek said: suck it up and watch what you haven't seen. Because you cannot judge what you haven't seen. For all you know, you may absolutely love the next three films after Generations. And you certainly cannot write about what you haven't seen, because your readers will know right away that you haven't.

And as far as not having access to the films? You have an internet connection or you wouldn't be posting here, right? One can find whatever one wants on the internet if one is diligent enough. So, are you a diligent writer who wants to be taken seriously?

 

[BillJ]

The first rule of a writer is: Know your material. If you deliberately pick and choose what's only convenient for your story and ignore the rest, then no one is going to take your work seriously, because you aren't taking Trek seriously.

Example: Almost every Star Trek fan universally despises ENTERPRISE's final episode. However, the Trek novel writers couldn't just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, as much as they probably wanted to. So they worked around it.

This.

While Nemesis isn't loved, the Pocket Books writers told a lot of good stories with stuff that was established in that film.

And as far as not having access to the films? You have an internet connection or you wouldn't be posting here, right? One can find whatever one wants on the internet if one is diligent enough. So, are you a diligent writer who wants to be taken seriously?

Yup. I downloaded a copy of Star Trek (2009) hours after I got home from seeing it. I kept and watched that copy until the Blu-ray came out.

 

[Greg Cox]

The first rule of a writer is: Know your material. If you deliberately pick and choose what's only convenient for your story and ignore the rest, then no one is going to take your work seriously, because you aren't taking Trek seriously.

Example: Almost every Star Trek fan universally despises ENTERPRISE's final episode. However, the Trek novel writers couldn't just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, as much as they probably wanted to. So they worked around it.

This.

While Nemesis isn't loved, the Pocket Books writers told a lot of good stories with stuff that was established in that film.

Heck, I can't stand Star Trek V, but that doesn't mean I haven't referenced those events in my books. Like it or not, that movie happened and is part of the "official" continuity.

Ditto for Romulus blowing up in the "Prime" timeline.

Romulus is toast.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

Do you have an agent?

 

[Squiggy]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

Intentions are great and all, but you can't expect to get the job of writing the next Star Wars movie if you just choose to ignore the prequels.

Know your product. "Oh, I haven't had time to watch Nemesis in the past decade. What was that about a Shizno?" won't endear you to anyone who has any say over the franchise.

Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

 

[BillJ]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

Intentions are great and all, but you can't expect to get the job of writing the next Star Wars movie if you just choose to ignore the prequels.

Know your product. "Oh, I haven't had time to watch Nemesis in the past decade. What was that about a Shizno?" won't endear you to anyone who has any say over the franchise.

Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

Heck! He's still got another six days to figure that all out.

 

[Dukhat]

Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

For some reason all the Trek movies with the exception of Nemesis are no longer available for streaming. If anyone can figure out the logic of this, please let me know.

Heck! He's still got another six days to figure that all out.

What happens in six days?

 

[Greg Cox]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

Intentions are great and all, but you can't expect to get the job of writing the next Star Wars movie if you just choose to ignore the prequels.

Know your product. "Oh, I haven't had time to watch Nemesis in the past decade. What was that about a Shizno?" won't endear you to anyone who has any say over the franchise.

Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

Exactly. I had never seen a single episode of LEVERAGE when I was approached about writing one of the novels, so the first thing I did was sit down and watch every episode to date before I even started working on my proposal.

You have to do your homework.

 

[Squiggy]

Heck! He's still got another six days to figure that all out.

What happens in six days?

I ninja'd BillJ. The OP is going to sit down with CBS by the end of the month to pitch, supposedly.

What is it with people who think they can just waltz in to Moonves office and walk out with an order for a full season?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Thanks for all the feedback and to Dukhat I do not have a contract with CBS... YET! But I intend to get it. And I'm as stubborn as Kirk.

Intentions are great and all, but you can't expect to get the job of writing the next Star Wars movie if you just choose to ignore the prequels.

Know your product. "Oh, I haven't had time to watch Nemesis in the past decade. What was that about a Shizno?" won't endear you to anyone who has any say over the franchise.

Got 10 bucks? Get Netflix. All the movies are on there.

Exactly. I had never seen a single episode of LEVERAGE when I was approached about writing one of the novels, so the first thing I did was sit down and watch every episode to date before I even started working on my proposal.

You have to do your homework.

Homework? But Daaaad! Star Trek's on!

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