io9 posted an article about that clip yesterday, speculating on the possibility of it being a coincidence or not. Pretty amusing either way.
The Daily Show Without Jon Stewart
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The Daily Show out-performed *everything* on where those polled get their news, even people who don't get their news from any source (who themselves out-performed those who watch Fox.) So it is something of a positive reflection of the show because it a small way it does keep people who watch it more informed.
Yes, this means you're better-off getting your news through osmosis than you are from Fox News.
^Well, that's a given. 
Well, I don't watch any network news shows, except for the panel discussion on Fox News Sunday. I like to watch Brit Hume smirk while Juan Williams comments on the topics at hand. It makes me laugh.
A parody news show has never appealed to me, at least not since HBO's Not Necessarily the News.
Seriously, I listen to local and select other cities' radio news/talk all day during the week. I get a pretty good handle on what's going on from that. When I get home, I'm ready for some sitcoms and stuff before I fall asleep.
Network news just makes me yell at the TV.
A parody news show has never appealed to me, at least not since HBO's Not Necessarily the News.
Seriously, I listen to local and select other cities' radio news/talk all day during the week. I get a pretty good handle on what's going on from that. When I get home, I'm ready for some sitcoms and stuff before I fall asleep.
Network news just makes me yell at the TV.
They were both good in my opinion. And iirc Stewart helped to executive produce Stephen Colbert's show. Supporting one another was one good thing for the both of them tbh.
Both of them lampooned the political system and gave it a nice swift kick in the rear which it truly needed.
The comedy and (in a way) the news world is a lot sadder off without either of them.
Political satire didn't begin and won't end with Stewart. I liked Stewart for a long time and then felt he lost his edge in the last few years, while Colbert just kept hitting it out of the park. To stay in that character for so long takes some kind of talent and effort.
But yeah, both of them being gone is a bummer. Be very interesting to see who (if anyone) they get to take over that show.
Agreed. It was there before and it'll survive.
Yea but I think it might have been due to him being more busy in the last few years. Maybe that affected things. As for Colbert, I think he'll do well in his new show due to being able to be so good in his old one for so long.
Yea it will be.
I think Colbert will be incredibly successful in his new show, but I don't think I'll find it funny.
For over a decade, whatever else is on TV, I've known if I wanted something to do at 11, just turn on Comedy Central for the reliable Stewart/Colbert combo. It's like a missing part of my daily routine.
Hopefully they find someone else who can make as good an impact as Stewart did, but in their own original way.
For over a decade, whatever else is on TV, I've known if I wanted something to do at 11, just turn on Comedy Central for the reliable Stewart/Colbert combo. It's like a missing part of my daily routine.
Hopefully they find someone else who can make as good an impact as Stewart did, but in their own original way.
Yeah, it's already not the same without Colbert though it frees up my DVR to record the other talk shows when they have interesting guests. Larry's show is OK but it hasn't earned the auto record slot that Colbert occupied. I'm curious about Colbert's new show but it will be weird not to see him in character.
It's really just semantics then. If it's not a fake news show, it's mock journalistic broadcasting. They don't have to be held accountable to journaliststic criteria (Even though they mostly uphold it anyway, so they don't look full of crap) & they don't present what they're doing as journalism. They present it as comedy. Fine line... maybe, when the comedy is about journalism & world news, but a line nonetheless. That you can find more credibility in TDS than on actual news broadcasting is not reflective of their show being elevated to actual journalistic status. It reflects how poorly standards have dropped in journalism
Pro-wrestling is not an Olympic sport, but if the Olympics became as ridiculous in their presentation AS pro-wrestling, then it would be hard to see which is the more legitimate sport
Journalism is not supposed to be entertainment. We can't tell the difference anymore
It's perhaps semantical but when you hear "fake news show" it's easy to hear "fake-news show" rather than "fake news-show."
It can muddy the intent of the show a bit to call it "fake" and imply that the stories they say and do are make-believe. I used to think it in the early years, especially with the correspondent segments as I didn't understand how they'd get presumably reputable people to be part of them and the segment's focus was often absurd.
Now, naturally, I know better.
It's probably better to call it a "news commentary show" or something, so as to not give the implication any aspect of it is fake.
It can muddy the intent of the show a bit to call it "fake" and imply that the stories they say and do are make-believe. I used to think it in the early years, especially with the correspondent segments as I didn't understand how they'd get presumably reputable people to be part of them and the segment's focus was often absurd.
Now, naturally, I know better.
It's probably better to call it a "news commentary show" or something, so as to not give the implication any aspect of it is fake.
It's not a journalism show, though. It's a comedian making jokes about the news. That's an important distinction to make.
I guess it is closer to journalism than most of the people claiming to be journalists nowadays.
I think Jon Stewart wants to do more in the vein of Rosewater, drop the comedy pretense and show injustice in a more serious way.
I guess it is closer to journalism than most of the people claiming to be journalists nowadays.
I think Jon Stewart wants to do more in the vein of Rosewater, drop the comedy pretense and show injustice in a more serious way.
Oh. dear-God that would be horrible.
Comedy Central is left leaning. It's clear in their programming. I doubt a rightist is has any chance
That's the real issue with Stewart I think. Between him & Colbert, they've done everything they could possibly have imagined in this venue. When you've roasted the president live, & made real policy makers fear your words, there's no more boundaries to push. It would be just year after year of the same, and now that Colbert is gone. He rightly feels like he's done, and now he's older & maybe it's time to step aside, enjoy other things in life & his career, and let someone new take a shot (Even though I don't think anyone has a snowball's chance in hell of being half as effective)
I don't begrudge Stewart stepping down. Despite how much I hate feeling like we're losing something great, when you think about it, his decision makes sense. Go out on top. He'll always be the champ. Periodically he can still come back if he wants. Lewis Black still does (Look to seeing him 1 more time before it's all said & done)
It's good he gave us fair warning. It'll give us time to prepare for a gaping hole in the actual political landscape. Maybe someone will step up & it'll work, or maybe they won't, but nonetheless, we've had a good run. With the exception of Weekend Update & Politically Incorrect, the 2000s have seen the emersion of political satire as a real power in America. Hopefully that's here to stay, despite whether the best are at the forefront
You mean like how an actual sitting president's staff allowed Colbert to speak at the 06 correspondents dinner?
That's the real issue with Stewart I think. Between him & Colbert, they've done everything they could possibly have imagined in this venue. When you've roasted the president live, & made real policy makers fear your words, there's no more boundaries to push. It would be just year after year of the same, and now that Colbert is gone. He rightly feels like he's done, and now he's older & maybe it's time to step aside, enjoy other things in life & his career, and let someone new take a shot (Even though I don't think anyone has a snowball's chance in hell of being half as effective)
I don't begrudge Stewart stepping down. Despite how much I hate feeling like we're losing something great, when you think about it, his decision makes sense. Go out on top. He'll always be the champ. Periodically he can still come back if he wants. Lewis Black still does (Look to seeing him 1 more time before it's all said & done)
It's good he gave us fair warning. It'll give us time to prepare for a gaping hole in the actual political landscape. Maybe someone will step up & it'll work, or maybe they won't, but nonetheless, we've had a good run. With the exception of Weekend Update & Politically Incorrect, the 2000s have seen the emersion of political satire as a real power in America. Hopefully that's here to stay, despite whether the best are at the forefront
I'll take Stewart's version of, "Journalism," any day over Don Lemon or Wolf Blitzer at CNN.
Lemon's notable idiotic statements - he actually thought that itmay have been possible for a blackhole to take the missing jetliner - and most recently was in the CNN,"blizzard mobile," in NYC when no such blizzard was occuring.
Blitzer's gaffe's are to numerous to mention - but the low point in his career was during the Boston bombing ordeal and/or when he asked Diane Feinstein if she was trying to help terrorists by releasing the torture reports.
If reality has a liberal bias - a point which, in the context of American politics, is indisputable - then surely funny people are biased towards liberalism, because a huge part of humor is coming up with fresh and startling perspectives on reality.
Anyone ever catch Red Eye on Fox News? It's sort of the right-wing equivalent of Larry's show. Maybe it's my left leanings but it's definitely a different viewing experience.
Comedy Central is left leaning. It's clear in their programming. I doubt a rightist is has any chance
You mean like how an actual sitting president's staff allowed Colbert to speak at the 06 correspondents dinner?
That's the real issue with Stewart I think. Between him & Colbert, they've done everything they could possibly have imagined in this venue. When you've roasted the president live, & made real policy makers fear your words, there's no more boundaries to push. It would be just year after year of the same, and now that Colbert is gone. He rightly feels like he's done, and now he's older & maybe it's time to step aside, enjoy other things in life & his career, and let someone new take a shot (Even though I don't think anyone has a snowball's chance in hell of being half as effective)
I don't begrudge Stewart stepping down. Despite how much I hate feeling like we're losing something great, when you think about it, his decision makes sense. Go out on top. He'll always be the champ. Periodically he can still come back if he wants. Lewis Black still does (Look to seeing him 1 more time before it's all said & done)
It's good he gave us fair warning. It'll give us time to prepare for a gaping hole in the actual political landscape. Maybe someone will step up & it'll work, or maybe they won't, but nonetheless, we've had a good run. With the exception of Weekend Update & Politically Incorrect, the 2000s have seen the emersion of political satire as a real power in America. Hopefully that's here to stay, despite whether the best are at the forefront
Pretty much nailed it. I don't know how Stewart will be replaced but i'm sure CC will try.
They lucked out immensely when they took Stewart on who made the show his own and built it to the level it is today. Anyone who follows his footsteps has to do his/her own thing and rebuild the show because i doubt a mere copy of Stewart will work, he was too unique for that.
Of the current colleagues the only ones i see having any chance are Aasif Mandvi and John Oliver who did a fairly decent job last summer as a subsitute for Stewart but he#s got his own show and i don't know if he would be willing to helm the show in the wake of Stewart.
With Stewart i loved how everybody mistook him for the clown who is popular until some idiots tried to use him to spread their propaganda and he zeroed in on them and destroyed them with pinpoint attacks that were based on fact and sound political analysis. After several times of this happening those morons stayed well away from the Today Show.
I respect people like O'Reilly for at least having the guts to repeatedly face Stewart head on even if he always lost these battles (his side of course always tells a different story
). Let's not forget how his appearance on Crossfire and comments on that show led to the cancellation of said show by exposing their hypocrisy and uselessness.
Crowing achievement in my book though was the first episode after 9/11 where he gave one of the most honest, heartfelt and emotional comments i ever saw on TV or anywhere.
I will truly miss him on the show but he has earned it ten times over to shift down and give his family more time. I will definitely be on the lookout for his next project and i can only hope that CC will luck out again and find a worthy successor.
I don't think replacing Stewart will be that hard. The writing staff and show runners and correspondents are all still there. They're what counts. I love the show, but I always thought Jon was the weakest link of the chain. Especially compared to Colbert. He has no improvisational skills or acting ability. He just giggles and breaks through every joke. Anytime there's been a replacement host I've enjoyed it just as much if not more so.
