Without even clicking on the video, I know it's the pussies, dicks and asshole speech.
Well, yeah, it says it right in the title...
The Daily Show Without Jon Stewart
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Well, yeah, it says it right in the title...
Yeah the bias goes both ways. Democrats and independents ignore the bias, republicans bitch about it.
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Without even clicking on the video, I know it's the pussies, dicks and asshole speech.
Well, yeah, it says it right in the title...
Oh, I dint really see the title.
Not sure I understand what you're saying here.
Stewart's bias is against corruption, hypocrisy, ignorance, intolerance and incompetence. That his ire is usually targeted at Republicans, Fox News and other so-called "conservative" groups is the fault of their character and practices, not political motivation.
I think (as a Jew) I am mostly offended that Noah's tweets aren't funny. They're mostly the obvious choices, rather than anything new or funny.
However, I'm still optimistic about Noah taking over the show. I've never been a big fan of Jason Jones or Sam Bee, so their leaving isn't worrisome for me. And, I'm not too attached to most of the others, so fresh blood may not be the worst thing.
That being said, I hope that they keep "Back in Black" as a segment, because I love me some Lewis Black.
However, I'm still optimistic about Noah taking over the show. I've never been a big fan of Jason Jones or Sam Bee, so their leaving isn't worrisome for me. And, I'm not too attached to most of the others, so fresh blood may not be the worst thing.
That being said, I hope that they keep "Back in Black" as a segment, because I love me some Lewis Black.
Taking in his background as a comedian and one who focuses on race etc, I don't find his tweets that offensive especially compared to the crap that is general found on Twitter. This just seems to be some people who are looking to be offended and others looking to hate anyone who dares to replace Jon Stewart (not too mention the outlets who would love Daily Show to be cancelled because its too Liberal 
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)My point is when Jon Stewart attacks democrats or independents they normally go 'ehh' and move on. Republicans normally act like you killed their pet and how it's just all an attack... blah blah blah.
Jon Stewart attacks anybody who is behaving ridiculously. He attacks CNN for oversimplifying and sensationalizing the dialog. I don't see as much outrageous manipulative fearmongering from the democratic side as the republican side.
He's clearly rooting for the democratic side in elections, but it's pretty clear his distaste for ridiculousness overcomes his preference for the liberal side.
He's clearly rooting for the democratic side in elections, but it's pretty clear his distaste for ridiculousness overcomes his preference for the liberal side.
And Stewart isn't afraid to attack liberals when he finds their arguments/positions absurd either.
Notably recently, he's been critical of Hillary Clinton's ridiculous arguments about her home e-mail server. E.g. their argument that they handed over 30,000 e-mails. Stewart's response to Ms. Clinton, paraphrase '.....yes 100 Datamations is a lot of Dalmatians but ya know there may be 101 dalmatians....
Clinton's argument that she didn't want to carry 2 phones....Stewart's retort '....it's not as if you don't have like probably 3 other people on your staff to carry the other one to email government information on a government phone...'
Regarding Noah's ...."jokes," they weren't even funny which IMO is at the heart of the problem. They were cliche riddled tweets that you'd think a 16 year old was texting as a ha, ha.
Noah has been on the show 3x and each of the times he's been on I've personally found his satire to fall flat and over-contrived. Very few comedians IMO can successfully deliver good satire - Stewart and Colbert were two that could - I think on film Will Farrell even does a great job at it - especially his Anchorman films.
Even James Franco in the Interview did it well. Shit even Rob Lowe and his Dish Network commercials satires himself well.
But Trevor Noah I think will struggle to replace Stewart and I'd bet his days are already numbered as Stewart's replaement.
Summed up perfectly, and I imagine the new version of The Daily Show will continue that legacy, although time will tell if Trevor Noah can manage to emulate that style of self-deprecation that made Stewart's rants entertaining and thoughtful rather than smug and condescending.
This sums up my opinion quite nicely. If anyone is interested, Trevor Noah does have a documentary about him on Netflix, "You Laugh, But It's True," which, at least in the first 15 minutes before I gave up watching it, was more about the South African comedy scene than Noah himself. I don't think he came across as sympathetic or interesting, though.
The documentary focuses on Noah's first one-man show, which one person interviewed commented that he was a bit too young and new on the scene to be commanding his own one-man show. I think he hit the nail on the head there, not just for this one-man show, but for The Daily Show, also.
To be honest, I started watching this, thinking it was his act. He does have another video on Netflix, "African American," so I'm going to give that a watch to see what I think of him as a comedian.
However, I am getting the impression that the success or failure of Noah on The Daily Show will fall to the writing staff. They've got to recover from his Tweets (which Stewart did address last night), but they do have a few months to prepare.
I just struggle with Noah, not being an American -regardless of his citizenship status- being on a show that mostly criticizes American politics and news media. It strikes me as like, I dunno, someone without children giving parenting advice to people with children.
It's very much, "Who are you to say anything?!"
That's not to say his opinions aren't valid and if he's a citizen he certainly has every right to criticize the government but it just comes across as "less genuine" than someone who has lived and worked here for decades -and doesn't come from a far worse and more corrupt place in terms of politics and society.
I'm not sure how much his opinions and any rants on the bullshit in the media and government is going to come across knowing these things about him. Part of me thinks it'll be slightly sounding like, "You think this is bad? Well in South America.."
I'll give him a watch when the transition happens but it's going to be a hard-sell for me. His segments on the show to this point have largely left me cold, so we'll see.
It's very much, "Who are you to say anything?!"
That's not to say his opinions aren't valid and if he's a citizen he certainly has every right to criticize the government but it just comes across as "less genuine" than someone who has lived and worked here for decades -and doesn't come from a far worse and more corrupt place in terms of politics and society.
I'm not sure how much his opinions and any rants on the bullshit in the media and government is going to come across knowing these things about him. Part of me thinks it'll be slightly sounding like, "You think this is bad? Well in South America.."
I'll give him a watch when the transition happens but it's going to be a hard-sell for me. His segments on the show to this point have largely left me cold, so we'll see.
First off more people without children need to kick the ass of many parents. "You are misbehaving? Have some sugar!". Stupid parents need to be yelled at. Have you been to a school? Parents pack cupcakes for lunch and then the school has to become a nanny state.
But anyways!
Once again I bring up John Oliver, he is doing a fantastic job and is British.
You certainly don't have to be American to see the absurdity that is omni-present in American politics and society.
It's Larry I feel sorry for.
In those crossover (stay tuned) rants during the last two minutes of the Daily Show where Larry makes fun of whitey, he can't make fun of Whitey any more, because Whitey has left the building.
In those crossover (stay tuned) rants during the last two minutes of the Daily Show where Larry makes fun of whitey, he can't make fun of Whitey any more, because Whitey has left the building.
No, but -for me- it "means more" when it comes from an American. Otherwise it sort-of sounds like just being told what to do from an outsider or being judged by an outsider. It's just a, "Who are you to criticize our government?!" Doesn't work for me, part of the problem I had with John Oliver and with many British newsmen on cable news stations. One in particular who occasionally rants about the "gun culture" in American, comparing it to England. It seems less like calling out the problems here and more like, "Look how mommy's doing it! That's the right way!"
When all I can think, "Yeah. But, umm I'll take what we have over living in a society where only certain people, most of them government entities, have guns. And, tell me a gain how much your media can openly criticize their government -or Queen- on TV?"
It just doesn't "sit right" with me or feels off. That's my fear here that when he goes on a rant about some Congress bullshit or something in the media it's not going to sound like a fellow American criticizing our government. It's going to sound like a foreign person criticizing MY government. Probably not far from how people in other countries feel when Stewart -or any American media personality- criticizes a foreign government. It's like, "Can you really do this when all of your own dogs aren't in a row?"
I'll give the show a watch but it's going to be a hard-sell for me. I've too much respect for Stewart and the glorious rants he's gone on against the media and the government. And the couple crusades he's gone on in the name of trying to get something of justice -like an episode centered around those still suffering from illnesses related to the 9/11 recovery operations and them having difficulty getting any kind of government help to pay their medical bills and maintain their families and lifestyle.
I'm willing to give this guy a chance and to watch it but, again, it's going to be a hard-sell for me and I still find choosing this guy to take-over the show very, very odd over all of the comedians at work today, many who do their own brand of political/media humor. This man was really the one who stood out over everyone else? What, precisely, made him stand-out and seem so special? The segments he's had on the show -which I'm not sure if it was or was not being done to groom both him and the audience to his being on the show- didn't impress me too greatly.
Maybe there is something in him that'll make him stand out and replace Stewart well. But I've yet to see or hear any indication of that so, again, hard-sell for me.
From time to time, the other talent over the years have called Stewart "their Boss" which means that he's a producer as well as the face of the business.
Um.
Nice new face at the front.
Hot.
But who takes over John's job as a producer?
Um.
Nice new face at the front.
Hot.
But who takes over John's job as a producer?
Yeah, I think so, too. I don't know why they went with this new guy that hardly anyone knows over show-vets like Asasif, but I guess we'll see.
Either way, I'm going to miss John terribly; I'm sure I'll be able to enjoy it without him.
Either way, I'm going to miss John terribly; I'm sure I'll be able to enjoy it without him.
I agree. Very odd they went with a new guy, but I have faith.... kind of.
