The curse(?) of small universe syndrome
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When they reran that film on TV it seemed much better than it seemed on opening night. And I'd forgotten the star-studdedness of the project.
The same Vulcans can't seem to communicate via regular Telepathy to their own species unless they touch each other via Mind Meld.
They can receive Telepathic communications as we saw with Tuvok and the Mari People in the Delta Quadrant, but they can't seem to even transmit to fellow Vulcans who they haven't Mind Melded with.
But with Mind Melded people, they seem to have immense range.
Really Weird & Different rules for different types of Telepathy?
Extreme Telepathic Range for those who they have a close bond with & No Telepathic Range for anybody else except for traditional Telepaths who can send and Vulcans can only receive & communicate with if those Telepaths initiate Telepathic Conversations with them.
But given that Vulcans have Extreme Emotions & need to repress them to the point of seemingly Cold Emotion-less Logic.
The Extremes in Telepathic Characteristics doesn't surprise me.
Those are the eyes of False Gods / EVIL!
::Proceeds to drop a few Boulders on you::
♬ e'll turn telekenesis on low
Oh! fast you can't move twice
Those peepers got a silv'ry glow
'e's got Gary Mitchell eyes ♬
(apologies to Kim Carnes)
As a rule, yes, but there have explicitly been exceptions, like "The Immunity Syndrome."
Episodes like "Amok Time," "Spectre of the Gun," and "Is There in Truth No Beauty" established that a mind meld could be used to create a telepathic bond that would then persist after the physical contact was broken. "Amok Time" seemed to confirm that such a bond could be sustained across interstellar distances.
Gene Roddenberry's novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture asserted that when Spock sensed V'Ger's presence during the Kolinahr ritual, he also sensed Kirk's thoughts about witnessing Epsilon IX's report of the destruction of the Klingon ships, even though Kirk was parsecs away on Earth. (The novel said that telepathic rapport between humans and Vulcans was only possible in cases of extraordinarily close friendship.) A number of other early novels (particularly those by authors with K/S leanings) posited that Kirk and Spock retained a permanent subliminal telepathic link akin to a Vulcan mating bond due to the number of times they'd melded over the years.
Except, again, in "The Immunity Syndrome."
I don't really consider that communication, it's more like Obi-Wan feeling the destruction of Alderann. A short powerful burst of distress. Similarly, Bendii syndrome causes Sarek to be able to broadcast to everyone, but it's not communication.
True. That seems to be closer to the equivalent of Telepathic "Wails of Demise" before the onset of their imminent Death; not specifically targeting Spock, but whomever was in range of their "Telepathic Communique".
Especially since the USS Intrepid had a All Vulcan crew. Spock just happened to be in Telepathic range.
Imagine what it must be like knowing your ship is screwed and in your mind, you're unconciously all radiating out your worst fears knowing death is impending.
Your Mental Discipline & Psionic Control falls moments before your impending doom, letting all your thoughts spread out everywhere in all directions.
On the physical surface, you might be calm, but in your mind, you might be thinking all sorts of thoughts.
That's got to be hard on anybody, much less an entire crew of Vulcans.
I get why Spock would be Stricken all of a sudden if he hears hundreds of Vulcan crew members final moments, all at the same time.
True, but it doesn't hurt that they're BFF's. So they might as well be as close as brothers in a sense.
Imagine being able to feel what your Brother feel, despite great physical distances between you & him.
That could be amazing.
I think the more interesting question is how far can their Telepathy travel across space?
How many Light Years?
We know that the Aenar were used to remote control the Drone Ships via Telepathy from the Romulan Homeworld.
That's got to be a record for Telepathic Transmission distances.
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Wouldn't it be easier to call it "Psionic-Space"?
Psi-Space
Waiting approval from the Federation Psionics Commission.
Given their mental discipline this is not unreasonable.
True, it's nice to ask permission before sending Telepathic Communications randomly.
It's very polite compared to being bombarded by thoughts or imagine if you're never able to stop hearing Telepathic Discussions IRL because everybody around you was a Telepath.
No Quiet Time in your head because everybody around you won't shut up Telepathically.
In the literal sense of the word, it is communication. The root of the word "communicate" is the same as the root of "common" or "community," and it means "shared." Anything shared is communication, whether it's a shared concept, a shared emotion, or whatever. We communicate feelings through our facial expressions and touch. A disease that can be shared is called communicable. In architecture, two rooms are said to communicate if they have a door or passage between them.
Besides, what matters here is the fact that a mental connection can be established over a distance. If there's a telepathic mechanism/phenomenon that allows emotions to be transmitted remotely, it stands to reason that it can also be used to transmit thoughts, images, or words, just as radio waves can be used to transmit audio, video, or digital information, or can have other uses like radar or microwave ovens. The only difference is in the application; the fundamental phenomenon is the same.
I suppose it's an issue of resolution. I can make you hear a symphony on the other side of a thick brick wall by blasting the speakers really loud, but all you'll hear is the bass.
Aquaman space?
Subspace-Mariner
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