The cancelled Generations uniforms and DS9 and VOY
- Thread starter tim0122
- Start date
I like the idea of different uniforms based on area of macro-systemic coverage. TOS had different badge logos based on ship (for which the movies onward changed and unified the same arrowhead/Delta for everyone), so why wouldn't 24th century outposts have a different uniform compared to roaming/patrol starships (or even classes therein if someone were pedantic enough to differentiate a flagship vessel from a science vessel from an exploratory vessel, even if some functions can overlap between these macro-level divisions. )
But alas, and long-winded stream of consciousness aside, the makers were probably going to do whatever cost the least and go across the board because it makes as much sense when mot more to have 100% conformity or higher, since Trek ditched individual ship logos for the Delta... DS9 would still get a couple years out of their new-style uniforms before switching. VOY wouldn't despite seeing the new uniforms because of replicator energy restrictions. Apart from building Delta Flyer and more torpedoes than were accounted for,
Granted, despite size mismatches (read: they don't fit the actors at all), Geordi and Riker both look great with the overall DS9 design/visage. If only they had them tailor-made
(6:44 if not 7:22 gets to the official reason for being ditched. Personally, I'm not fond of the overtly-flappy lapels and I already miss the angled waistline. and, yeah, the tuck-in look alone would have prompted an emergency stop...)
And for a real way-out and out-there digression:
At least the music isn't "Yakkety Sax", but holds its own quite well indeed.
Those look awful. Yeah they're hanging off mannequins and not in the best light still not a great design.
I'm glad those uniforms weren't used. The original DS9/VOY uniforms were better-looking and already served as a transition to the real-world post-TNG era. In a real sense, it worked out for the best because we eventually got the FC uniforms.
The only reason those uniforms existed was because they were going to be the Voyager crew’s duty uniforms. I would think that by the time FC rolled around almost two years later, the Enterprise-E crew would have had the same FC uniforms we ended up getting anyway.
But yes, I agree that I’m glad they weren’t used. The DS9 jumpsuits were indeed better.
I have a rock.
Ah, the limited edition "Tsunkatse"(sp) action figures?
I will confess that I wasn't following all the series closely back then, but wouldn't it have made "canonical" sense for Voyager to be using outdated uniforms out in the wild as it were, while Deep Space Nine wore the latest upgrade? Seems as if they did it in reverse.
Voyager was lost after DS9 had been on the air for more than a season, so it makes sense that the Voyager crew were wearing the same uniforms. What wouldn't have made sense would have been if the Voyager folks had suddenly switched to the newer gray uniforms (which the DS9 folks ended up doing).
An argument could be made that once Voyager established contact with the AQ that maybe they should have switched uniforms at that point, but it's easy enough to say it would have been a relatively pointless use of limited resources or such.
IIRC, VGR switched to the newer phaser and tricorder props before they contacted Starfleet in-universe. There was a fanwank that they already had the replicator patterns before they left and there was a set deployment date, so once that happened, all the new ones they made would be of the updated model.
They switched to those back in the second season. IIRC, the old props from TNG were wearing out so both Voyager and DS9 needed replacements, and everyone felt "we're building new props anyway, might as well update them."
Then, in the third season they switched to the new model of phaser rifle introduced in First Contact and continued using it in the fourth season before switching back to their own "compression" phaser rifles in the fifth season and keeping them for the remainder of the series. Curiously, DS9 only used the FC rifles exactly once, in the episode Empok Nor.
I don't feel the need to fanwank every little decision made by the props department. Enjoy your suspension of disbelief hour and leave the rest of us alone
(not you personally)Similar threads
