Spoilers The Boys Season 4 Discussion ( Spoilers)

[TedShatner10]

Not the best, not the worst and tied up most loose ends; the show became a victim of story/pacing creep (I actually preferred Preacher's final episodes).

And the Deep was terminally stupid...

 

[thribs]

Was nice to see Starlight actually being a hero at the end there

 

[TedShatner10]

Was nice to see Starlight actually being a hero at the end there

And at the end she's an independent crime fighter.

 

[Campe]

I think it was a serviceable finale. Not amazing but not as horrible as some seem to consider. I was late to the game on The Boys and binged it (and Gen V) fairly quickly ahead of the final season so I don’t see a lot of the perceived flaws that it seems like many have with the series. I admit the earlier seasons were better (but honestly that happens a lot) but the ending was pretty much what I anticipated. Loved that Homelander was a feckless moron before his death. Groveling to Butcher was exactly what I was hoping for.

I also don’t understand the fan obsession with The Deep. He’s an awful, pathetic character and also got what was coming to him.

 

[Saul]

They ticked the boxes but they dropped the ball. It's sad that the show we started with ended like this. Those season 5 posters of Homelander blowing up a city from space gave some hope of at least an exciting end with the nutcase unleashed after years of teasing. But no. We get an oval office fight. How did we get here for a show that was going from strength to strength? It had become big enough to justify a big budget ending, right? Look at all the money they dumped on Rings of Power.

And why wasn't Butcher in jail in the end?

 

[TedShatner10]

I also don’t understand the fan obsession with The Deep. He’s an awful, pathetic character and also got what was coming to him.

Some folks wanted him live past the final credits, to live with his accumulation of mistakes and misery.

He was an awful, unpleasant doofus who threw away each and every chance to escape his dark path (unlike with A-Train).

Also I also get taken aback by viewers (like Saul) who expected a more gory Endgame scale blow up (when it was always a mid budget TV production, not really a mini-movie).

 

[StarMan]

Hard to believe how thoroughly meh I've been on this show these past two seasons considering how much I dug S1-3.

Finale rating: Solid meh and a generous 2.5 / 5. No notes.

 

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[thribs]

I forgot they had this at cinemas. I don’t know why since nothing really justified it.
They should have had a 6th season. End this one with Homelander finally losing control. Having it happen just mere minutes before he died wasn’t very satisfying

 

[Jayson1]

Serviceable I think is the best way to describe the final. Not great but it still gets the job done without completely sucking. The things that hurt it the most I believe was lack of budget, lack of time( should of been at least a hour and thirty minutes or so) and it's beyond clear now that these rumors of "Vought Rising" being both a prequel and sequel have got to be true.

They got Soldier Boy and Bombsight in the present day and a mostly intact world just waiting to be used some more for the spin-off. That plus budget stopped them from having Homelander going scorched Earth on the public, keeping all the action in essence restricted to just the White House.

I did get emotional over Butchers death and did like seeing Homelander grovel . Terror dying was sad as well. Best joke was Ashley being impeached. I also found it funny that Sister Sage's happy ending was by just becoming a idiot.

 

[FreezeC77]

The fact that 5 seasons led to Homelander even stronger than he had ever been having a showdown in ONE FUCKING ROOM. I don't care if it's the oval office... it's still just a room.

The Maeve/Kimiko/Starlight vs Stormfront fight a few seasons ago was so much better than the 'ultimate showdown' that the was built up to for 5 seasons. Even some of the past Homelander fights where he wasn't even as strong as he is now were better.

This season just felt pretty cheap in what they showed (or didn't show).

Even looking at The Deep's end. You see FINS above the the water, a tentacle and a pretty quick end. Just lame.

 

[StarMan]

The Maeve/Kimiko/Starlight vs Stormfront fight a few seasons ago was so much better than the 'ultimate showdown' that the was built up to for 5 seasons. Even some of the past Homelander fights where he wasn't even as strong as he is now were better.

Hell, Stormfront casually laying waste to that apartment block while hunting Kimiko's brother.

 

[TedShatner10]

The fact that 5 seasons led to Homelander even stronger than he had ever been having a showdown in ONE FUCKING ROOM. I don't care if it's the oval office... it's still just a room.

The Maeve/Kimiko/Starlight vs Stormfront fight a few seasons ago was so much better than the 'ultimate showdown' that the was built up to for 5 seasons. Even some of the past Homelander fights where he wasn't even as strong as he is now were better.

That's not due to low budget, I think that's more down to better story boarding or scripting and fight cherography (it's still four girls kicking fifth girl in a muddy field, while some of them are wearing silly costumes) and the Oval Office battle was similar to the Herogasm fight, IMO (so that's the most they could ever do with the relatively low SFX budget per season).

The Deep's death was not especially cheap looking, that gigantic kraken looking creature that actually killed the Deep got you wondering, and that Samuel L Jackson voiced Hammerhead was very dope for the show's production values (we got spoilt with movie budgeted streaming shows of the 2010s and early 2020s, and that era could be ending now).

 

[Jayson1]

I wish they had Samuel Jackson Shark kill him instead of a Kraken. Also the oil spill should have been at the beginning of the season. Him having a podcast ended up meaning nothing.

 

[Saul]

Also I also get taken aback by viewers (like Saul) who expected a more gory Endgame scale blow up (when it was always a mid budget TV production, not really a mini-movie).

I had my fill of gore. I was just waiting for 8 years for Homelander to go nuclear. Which they teased from season 1.
And the show was a hit when it came out. Everyone was talking about it. They surely gave it more budget and yet season 1 looked better than season 5 did.

The Deep's death was not especially cheap looking, that gigantic kraken looking creature that actually killed the Deep got you wondering

Got wondering about what? How lame it was? Just one gigantic kraken? A tentacle through the head. After the threat of the whole ocean tearing him apart? His death felt so perfunctory.

 

[Jayson1]

The kraken murder would have looked better if they had used practical effects instead of CGI.

 

[TedShatner10]

Got wondering about what? How lame it was? Just one gigantic kraken? A tentacle through the head. After the threat of the whole ocean tearing him apart? His death felt so perfunctory.

I dunno, we had several episodes of build up (undermining then killing his best friend for no reason, turned on enmasse by his ocean friends, and discarded by Homelander) and it was poetic a giantic octopus finally done him in after many, many episodes of being a dumb POS (considering what he did to his best octopus friend and then later an octopus lover).

 

[Jayson1]

The problem with The Deep is lots of the stuff he gets blamed for is stuff it's kind of hard to blame him for. The sexual assault on Annie is on him but how many times has he basically been forced to do something because Homelander wanted him to do it.

Well we know what happens to people who say no to Homelander. Or even says the wrong thing or looks at him the wrong way. It's basically a death sentence. Even if you escape like A-Train he still ended up eventually killing him.

 

[Aragorn]

Kripke turned down The Agency on Paramount+ because the title stood for everything he's against.

 

[USS Firefly]

It was just ok, nothing special. If I ever going to rewatch the show I think I stop after season 3.

So that's it, show started with a bang and went out with a whimper. Unfortunately happens more often than one would like. I am honestly struggling right now to remember any high profile show that went out in the best possible way at the height of its popularity and quality.

The expanse?