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The Blu-Ray movie collection

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The Motion Picture gets its first commentary

TMP on Blu-Ray only has the one commentary because the previous commentary was for the DE DVD of TMP, and Robert Wise’s comments wouldn’t have tracked properly if used with the theatrical cut.
 
review

dvdtalk.com has a review up:
[FONT=Verdana]May 12, 2009[/FONT]
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37338/star-trek-original-motion-picture-collection/


Final Thoughts:
Star Trek: The Original Motion Picture Collection is a mixed bag, part of which can be laid directly at the varying quality of the films themselves. More troublingly, however, is the odd decision not to release the Director's Cut of Motion Picture (not to mention the less radically tweaked revised versions of several others). Does this mean yet another high-priced "collection" is in the works? I have to say my hunch is it is, and I find that lamentable. Perhaps more pertinent to this particular release is the sometimes iffy image quality. This could have been a DVD Talk Collector Series title if Paramount had taken a little more care with it. As it is, it's Recommended.
 
I certainly don't want a Blu-ray copy of TWOK that doesn't have this scene it. I don't care if Paramount can't get the extra Director's Edition scenes up to full HD spec. I want them in the film.

Why are these scenes not available in 1080p? Certainly the original negatives must still exist. Was Paramount too cheap, then, to remaster these scenes, or have they actually been lost?
 
Yes they are available.

It's called double-dipping.

It's all but certain there will be a 'Director's set' in a year or two.

If the film negatives were 'lost forever' they could have said so or included thein in a bonus section or had them available via seamless branching in 480p resolution (which is how they present 'lost footage' in other releases where they only have 'degraded sources' for certain footage.)

The fact that they simply ignored that deleted footage exists at all means they are saving it.

I only bought the 3-pack and will wait for the Director's set whenever it comes.
 
high def digest review of STII:TWOK Blu-ray

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Blu-ray)
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2460/startrek2_wok.html

The movie retains a veneer of grain structure throughout (heaviest in the nebula sequence), more so than any of the other pictures in the set, but it looks natural and organic. The film appears to have less Digital Noise Reduction processing than any of the other 'Trek' Blu-rays.

this isn't the sharpest movie you'll ever see. Much of that is the result of the picture having been photographed largely in soft focus to hide the age of the actors. If anything, the high-def transfer reveals how almost comical the overuse of soft focus is. In one particular scene between Kirk and McCoy, Kirk holds a pair of glasses in front of him.
 
Re: high def digest review of STII:TWOK Blu-ray

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Blu-ray)
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2460/startrek2_wok.html

The movie retains a veneer of grain structure throughout (heaviest in the nebula sequence), more so than any of the other pictures in the set, but it looks natural and organic. The film appears to have less Digital Noise Reduction processing than any of the other 'Trek' Blu-rays.

this isn't the sharpest movie you'll ever see. Much of that is the result of the picture having been photographed largely in soft focus to hide the age of the actors. If anything, the high-def transfer reveals how almost comical the overuse of soft focus is. In one particular scene between Kirk and McCoy, Kirk holds a pair of glasses in front of him.

That isn't soft focus, that is OUT OF FOCUS. The glasses are sharper than he is. I don't think they really tried to hide age much till TVH, when they shot in smoke. They tried to some degree with makeup in TMP, but it is hard to help appearances when the light is coming up at an unflattering angle.
 
Yes they are available.

It's called double-dipping.

It's all but certain there will be a 'Director's set' in a year or two.

If the film negatives were 'lost forever' they could have said so or included thein in a bonus section or had them available via seamless branching in 480p resolution (which is how they present 'lost footage' in other releases where they only have 'degraded sources' for certain footage.)

The fact that they simply ignored that deleted footage exists at all means they are saving it.

I only bought the 3-pack and will wait for the Director's set whenever it comes.

Perfect timing for the next movie. ;)
 
I received the box set today, but not having a BD player yet I can't comment on the actual content. I just find it annoying that they didn't use the original covers for the movies. From the artwork point of view I still like the barebone DVD edition most.
 
The terrible artwork on the 6 movie set is another hint they plan a re-release. They know darn well that the movie poster art would be way preferred to this minimalistic junk they came out with.

I fully expect to see the poster art the next time around.

i haven't heard a single person who liked this new 'artwork'
 
^^Lot of errors in that last review.

He doesn't know that the longer version of trek 6 is gone from this new release and that the commentary of it and trek 2 have been edited down. He also seems to state that the original commentary of TWOK is missing altogether not just edited down.
He also doesn't understand a seamless branching of TMP was impossible because of far too many differences. He also doesn't mention the real reason TMP DC wasn't released--which is the 480 resolution FX.

Oh well maybe he doesn't eat, sleep & drink Trek.
 
A lot of reviewers have missed the fact that the Blu-ray versions (except for TMP) DO have the old commentaries of 2 & 6 albeit with cuts to eliminate mentioning of the added footage bits.
 
Having lots of fun watching my long-missed theatrical versions of the films. Watched Wrath of Kahn straight through last night and it struck me how more mature the film is in atmosphere than most of the others following. It just has a more serious feel, even though it brought space opera back to the movies. The combination of the script, action, direction and cinematography created a real sense of reality to offset the Kahn stuff, which was nicely over the top.

It's hard to explain, but even in the serious scenes in Trek 5, it never felt real. And even Trek 6 went the route of using the main cast in a leighter vein, making them all over the top. Doohan's outburst on the bridge about telling starfleet of the invisible assassins was pretty broad for him. Just sayin'. :)
 
Having lots of fun watching my long-missed theatrical versions of the films. Watched Wrath of Kahn straight through last night and it struck me how more mature the film is in atmosphere than most of the others following. It just has a more serious feel, even though it brought space opera back to the movies. The combination of the script, action, direction and cinematography created a real sense of reality to offset the Kahn stuff, which was nicely over the top.

It's hard to explain, but even in the serious scenes in Trek 5, it never felt real. And even Trek 6 went the route of using the main cast in a leighter vein, making them all over the top. Doohan's outburst on the bridge about telling starfleet of the invisible assassins was pretty broad for him. Just sayin'. :)


I disagree with you about the Director's cuts, but 100% agree about the tone of the movies after TWOK.

What started with the little 'Mr Adventure', "If my grandmother had wheels..." bits in Trek 3 evolved into a totally comedic spin in 4 and they never recovered. It seems that someone felt that the series would somehow be helped by all this 'lighter' tone and the very broad line readings by Doohan especially. It's hard to nitpick 6 after the mess that was 5, but they should have dialed back some of that even more in TUC.
I know Koenig, Doohan & Nichols were ready to jump all over any lines thrown their way, but I'm sure if they had been getting more meaty stuff all along they'd have pulled back a little in TUC. The whole thing with "Russian epic of Cinderella" and the translation books was total tripe.
TWOK is a serious action/sci-fi movie and they never got back there.
 
STV:TFF review (Blu-ray)

Highdef digest has a review up of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

it has a much better sense of sharpness and detail than the 'Star Trek IV' disc.
Digital Noise Reduction...some terrible issues with film grain processing. Countless scenes exhibit artifacts where grain freezes in place or swims in unnatural patterns as the actors move through it.
Audio Commentary by Trek experts Michael & Denise Okuda, authors Judith & Garfield Reese-Stevens, and visual effects artist Daren Dochterman – Now this is the commentary that 'Star Trek V' needs,
Whether you like 'Star Trek V' or not, this commentary is a very good listen. I wish this group had been able to comment on every movie in the set.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2468/startrek5_finalfrontier.html

perhaps we'll hear more audio commentaries from the Okuda's in the future...
 
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