The Big Thing About X-Men Origins

[Vulagr]

There is one big huge error in X-Men origins.

Spoiler

Striker shot an adamantium bullet and since Wolverine's brain won't heal because the bullet is preventing it from regenerating, he can't retrieve his memories.

Now. Why is it a problem?

Spoiler

Because the X-Men aren't stupid. Xavier's an experienced telepath and he would've been able to detect the bullet that is keeping his brain from fully recovering. They also had sophisticated medical equipment that would've detected the hole and the bullet because it can see through adamantium, at least as far as I know. They would've also come up with a way to get that bullet out.

For example, they could've had Shadowcat (Kitty Pride) phase his body out of phase, leaving the bullet in phase to simply drop to the floor. Voila! End of Wolvies' memory problems. Well, maybe.

Or they could've simply done some surgery. Xavier could've used his telepathy to shut Wolvies' body off, except for life support, and performed surgery and retrieve the bullet through the hole it made when it was shot through the forehead and the skull. Or had Jean Grey use her telekinesis to remove it, or in her Phoenix form, just do to it what she did to Scott and the Professor.

And the other problem is too is that Adamantium does regenerate like his skin and bones would, so there's a whole in there with some bone exposed.

And, since it is so devastating of an attack to him (it did knock him out for quite some time after all), then all you'd have to do is just keep shooting his head full of adamantium and there you have a way of putting Wolvie down for the count and incapacitating him, since his brain can't spit out the adamantium bullet not can it fully heal itself with one in his brain. Imagine filling his head with several adamantium bullets and you get the idea. Bye bye higher functions. No more Wolverine.

So I think that the idea of an adamantium bullet is causing his memory failure, well it's a bad idea.

But other than that, the movie wasn't so bad.

 

[Sindatur]

You need an "=" after the word spoiler

[ spoiler= ] spoiler [ /spoiler ]

 

[Vulagr]

Oh! Thanks.

 

[Sindatur]

Oh! Thanks.

No Problem. If you write something after the "=" it will dispplay on the button IE: [ spoiler= Xmen ] spoiler [ /spoiler ]

Gives you

Spoiler: XMen

spoiler

 

[Captaindemotion]

Do we really need spoiler code for a movie that's, what, 2.5 years old anyway?

 

[Vulagr]

Some people haven't seen it.

But people gotta complain.

 

[T'Baio]

The whole movie was a bad idea. Everything about it.

It's truly terrible, and everyone involved should be ashamed of ever thinking it was good.

 

[Set Harth]

Xavier's an experienced telepath and he would've been able to detect the bullet that is keeping his brain from fully recovering.

The bullets aren't there any more. They went all the way through.

And the other problem is too is that Adamantium does regenerate like his skin and bones would, so there's a whole in there with some bone exposed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium#Adamantium_beta

Certain sources give the impression that the adamantium may have become bonded to Wolverine's skeleton on a molecular level, making the adamantium ( or at least some layer of it ) actually adamantium beta and possibly subject to regeneration via the healing factor along with the bone. In fact, this is what seems to be depicted in certain shots of the film while the bullet holes are closing up. In one shot we can see that the gap in the adamantium is already smaller than the width of the bullet.

 

[crookeddy]

The whole movie was a bad idea. Everything about it.

It's truly terrible, and everyone involved should be ashamed of ever thinking it was good.

I liked the opening montage of Wolverine's life...

 

[Skellington]

Avoided the movie due to adverse buzz and its terrible title. Great trailer, though.

 

[Set Harth]

"Great. Stuck in an elevator with five guys on a high-protein diet. Dreams really do come true." - Wade Wilson

 

[Silvercrest]

There is one big huge error in C-Men origins.

Spoiler

Striker shot an adamantium bullet and since Wolverine's brain won't heal because the bullet is preventing it from regenerating, he can't retrieve his memories.

Now. Why is it a problem?

Spoiler

Because the X-Men aren't stupid. Xavier's an experienced telepath and he would've been able to detect the bullet that is keeping his brain from fully recovering. They also had sophisticated medical equipment that would've detected the hole and the bullet because it can see through adamantium, at least as far as I know. They would've also come up with a way to get that bullet out.

For example, they could've had Shadowcat (Kitty Pride) phase his body out of phase, leaving the bullet in phase to simply drop to the floor. Voila! End of Wolvies' memory problems. Well, maybe.

Or they could've simply done some surgery. Xavier could've used his telepathy to shut Wolvies' body off, except for life support, and performed surgery and retrieve the bullet through the hole it made when it was shot through the forehead and the skull. Or had Jean Grey use her telekinesis to remove it, or in her Phoenix form, just do to it what she did to Scott and the Professor.

And the other problem is too is that Adamantium does regenerate like his skin and bones would, so there's a whole in there with some bone exposed.

And, since it is so devastating of an attack to him (it did knock him out for quite some time after all), then all you'd have to do is just keep shooting his head full of adamantium and there you have a way of putting Wolvie down for the count and incapacitating him, since his brain can't spit out the adamantium bullet not can it fully heal itself with one in his brain. Imagine filling his head with several adamantium bullets and you get the idea. Bye bye higher functions. No more Wolverine.

So I think that the idea of an adamantium bullet is causing his memory failure, well it's a bad idea.

But other than that, the movie wasn't so bad.

Spoiler: Wolverine

I don't think the presence of the bullet is what was keeping him from getting his memories back. I was under the impression that his brain was just plain torn up by the initial injury and that his memory was destroyed as a result. The brain regenerated itself just fine, but it did so in a more or less blank state. Regenerating brain tissue doesn't recover lost data....

 

[Locutus of Bored]

There is one big huge error in C-Men origins.

Spoiler

Striker shot an adamantium bullet and since Wolverine's brain won't heal because the bullet is preventing it from regenerating, he can't retrieve his memories.

Now. Why is it a problem?

Spoiler

Because the X-Men aren't stupid. Xavier's an experienced telepath and he would've been able to detect the bullet that is keeping his brain from fully recovering. They also had sophisticated medical equipment that would've detected the hole and the bullet because it can see through adamantium, at least as far as I know. They would've also come up with a way to get that bullet out.

For example, they could've had Shadowcat (Kitty Pride) phase his body out of phase, leaving the bullet in phase to simply drop to the floor. Voila! End of Wolvies' memory problems. Well, maybe.

Or they could've simply done some surgery. Xavier could've used his telepathy to shut Wolvies' body off, except for life support, and performed surgery and retrieve the bullet through the hole it made when it was shot through the forehead and the skull. Or had Jean Grey use her telekinesis to remove it, or in her Phoenix form, just do to it what she did to Scott and the Professor.

And the other problem is too is that Adamantium does regenerate like his skin and bones would, so there's a whole in there with some bone exposed.

And, since it is so devastating of an attack to him (it did knock him out for quite some time after all), then all you'd have to do is just keep shooting his head full of adamantium and there you have a way of putting Wolvie down for the count and incapacitating him, since his brain can't spit out the adamantium bullet not can it fully heal itself with one in his brain. Imagine filling his head with several adamantium bullets and you get the idea. Bye bye higher functions. No more Wolverine.

So I think that the idea of an adamantium bullet is causing his memory failure, well it's a bad idea.

But other than that, the movie wasn't so bad.

Spoiler: Wolverine

I don't think the presence of the bullet is what was keeping him from getting his memories back. I was under the impression that his brain was just plain torn up by the initial injury and that his memory was destroyed as a result. The brain regenerated itself just fine, but it did so in a more or less blank state. Regenerating brain tissue doesn't recover lost data....

This was my interpretation, as well.

As far as the merits of the film, I think it had a lot of elements that could have made for a great film, but it was kind of shoddily executed. It's not terrible or unwatchable by any means (at least not IMO), and it's the worst of the X-franchise, but it's still enjoyable.

 

[DonIago]

^Pretty much agree with this. That being said, I've seen XMO:W but have not subjected myself to The Last Stand.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^Pretty much agree with this. That being said, I've seen XMO:W but have not subjected myself to The Last Stand.

I have pretty much the same opinion as above about XM:TLS, but I think it's slightly better that Wolverine. If you can enjoy Wolverine I think you could probably tolerate The Last Stand and enjoy it on the same merits. You should give it a shot.

 

[DonIago]

Ehhh...I should note that I read the Dark Phoenix Saga. Actually, I made the unfortunate mistake of getting into the comics right before that ramped into high gear...the problem being that when that's what you start with everything else seems disappointing.

 

[coolghoul]

There is one big huge error in C-Men origins.

Spoiler

Striker shot an adamantium bullet and since Wolverine's brain won't heal because the bullet is preventing it from regenerating, he can't retrieve his memories.

Now. Why is it a problem?

Spoiler

Because the X-Men aren't stupid. Xavier's an experienced telepath and he would've been able to detect the bullet that is keeping his brain from fully recovering. They also had sophisticated medical equipment that would've detected the hole and the bullet because it can see through adamantium, at least as far as I know. They would've also come up with a way to get that bullet out.

For example, they could've had Shadowcat (Kitty Pride) phase his body out of phase, leaving the bullet in phase to simply drop to the floor. Voila! End of Wolvies' memory problems. Well, maybe.

Or they could've simply done some surgery. Xavier could've used his telepathy to shut Wolvies' body off, except for life support, and performed surgery and retrieve the bullet through the hole it made when it was shot through the forehead and the skull. Or had Jean Grey use her telekinesis to remove it, or in her Phoenix form, just do to it what she did to Scott and the Professor.

And the other problem is too is that Adamantium does regenerate like his skin and bones would, so there's a whole in there with some bone exposed.

And, since it is so devastating of an attack to him (it did knock him out for quite some time after all), then all you'd have to do is just keep shooting his head full of adamantium and there you have a way of putting Wolvie down for the count and incapacitating him, since his brain can't spit out the adamantium bullet not can it fully heal itself with one in his brain. Imagine filling his head with several adamantium bullets and you get the idea. Bye bye higher functions. No more Wolverine.

So I think that the idea of an adamantium bullet is causing his memory failure, well it's a bad idea.

But other than that, the movie wasn't so bad.

Spoiler: Wolverine

I don't think the presence of the bullet is what was keeping him from getting his memories back. I was under the impression that his brain was just plain torn up by the initial injury and that his memory was destroyed as a result. The brain regenerated itself just fine, but it did so in a more or less blank state. Regenerating brain tissue doesn't recover lost data....

This was my interpretation, as well.

I agree too. From what I recall from the movie, the reason is that while the

Spoiler: reason of memory loss

his mutant power allows him to regenerate his brain he can't regenerate the memories and hence can't remember stuff.

 

[archeryguy1701]

My biggest issue with that whole sequence of events was the fact that Stryker knew that shooting him in the head would wipe his memories. There's no way for them to know that that would be the outcome Stryker should have been operating under the assumption that he was going to kill Wolverine. I don't know why, but that's always bugged the hell out of me.

 

[Trekker4747]

So while we're in this area of subject....

How does Wolverine's bone marrow work? With his skeleton covered in adamantium then bone marrow can't release white blood cells into his body, thus he has no immune system which means he should just die from the common cold.

 

[Gaith]

My biggest issue with that whole sequence of events was the fact that Stryker knew that shooting him in the head would wipe his memories. There's no way for them to know that that would be the outcome Stryker should have been operating under the assumption that he was going to kill Wolverine.

Did he read the script, too? What's that on the ground?

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