Because of Wolverine's healing factor, they knew just shooting him in the brain would not kill him. This is explained outright in the film in a dialogue exchange.
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Because of Wolverine's healing factor, they knew just shooting him in the brain would not kill him. This is explained outright in the film in a dialogue exchange.
That isn't why it's a problem. It's a problem because memories aren't stored in one location.
Further, shooting someone in the head kills them - it doesn't give them amnesia. It was absolutely stupid on the writer's part to throw that in. They clearly wanted Wolverine to confront Striker after having his procedure, and thus the procedure could not be the cause of his amnesia. They basically wrote themselves into a corner, and didn't want to put too much thought into fixing it.
Not only that, but your bones need to be constantly replenished with calcium, and are also a vital source of calcium when you body is low. The only explanation I can think of is that the blood vessels going into his bones were not destroyed.
That's because they're normal people, not mutants with a magically powerful regeneration ability. To assume Logan is just like normal people denies the premise of the whole franchise.
He's a mutant with one of the greatest healing abilities on earth.
He probably can't suffer from the common cold. Or most viruses and infections. He probably doesn't even need white blood cells!
But a big point in the film in relation to dealing with mutants with healing factors is that cutting their heads off should kill them.... why wouldn't scrambling their brains have the same effect? And even if they operate under the assumption that the headshots won't kill him, why would they assume that it would wipe his memory? I mean, the guy's lived for nearly 200 years, has made a hobby out of going to war, and seems to have a pretty good memory up until the end of the movie..... surely Stryker can't have been the first guy to come up with the brilliant plan of getting Logan in the head. And, since Logan didn't have the adamantium up until that point, everyone else's headshots should have been as effective, if not more so, than Stryker's. So, barring adamantium having a special memory-wiping trait that the scientists knew about, it's still kind of strange that Stryker had that specific outcome as his Plan B.
No, it was explicitly stated that Logan thought that might kill Victor. Neither of them knew for sure.
Victor Creed: Do you even know how to kill me?
Logan: I'm gonna cut your goddamn head off. See if that works.
[Victor smiles and laughs]
Going by the after-credits scene Set Harth mentioned earlier where Deadpool (who had Wolverine's healing factor) survived, clearly even decapitation is not enough to kill them.
Because the scrambled brain matter itself can regenerate, but not the memories it contained. Technically, he should have probably reverted to the level of a newborn and had to relearn everything from walking to talking, but I guess he got lucky and didn't lose that (plus, he had the script and expediency on his side).
He did spend lots of time studying Logan with some advanced medical equipment in preparation for the adamantium bonding, plus he studied Victor before that. That's probably where he formulated his plan.
And aren't your muscles and tendons sort of, you know, attached to your bones? It's not like we're giant meat sacks with a crunchy center, everything sort-of connected. Wouldn't the adamantium have to get between the bone and the tendons and such?
That's one, of many, things I didn't like about Wolverine: How the adamantium thing was played. It had always seemed to be and had been inferred that Wolverine went through something like a vivisection to graft the adamantium to his skeleton, one bone, piece, or whatever at a time. Through a complicated and painful process.
Pumping him full of the shit hardly seems to me like as being "as bad" and it sort of begs the question how the stuff perfectly formed around his skeleton and even managed to form nicely formed, sharpened, blades around his claws.
Yeah. It is a fantastic premise, to be sure. The bone grafting could have been over just the unattached parts of his bones, leaving the tendons, ligaments, and joints free to function.
The adamantium thing was "played" exactly how it was shown in X2 when Wolverine fought Deathstrike in the adamantium bonding lab. The adamantium had to remain molten to be molded to the bone, it was shot through injectors directly into the body, and then it cooled internally. Remember how Wolverine finally defeated her by injecting her with adamantium until it was coming out of her eyes? Wolverine was remarkably consistent with X2 in that regard.
It seems to me that being injected full of molten metal would fall under the "pretty bad" end of the pain scale any way you cut it, vivisection or no.
If you have a problem with it, it's not a problem unique to XMO: Wolverine by any means. It's a problem with the very premise of post-adamantium Wolverine in its entirety, either in the comics or in the movies. And once it gets to that scale, you might as well just forget it since you're dealing with mutants who can move cities with their minds and freeze oceans.
They also did not show it not exiting the back of his skull.
And again, "it" should be a plural because there were two bullets.
The explanation in the comics is that Logan's healing factor is the only thing keeping him alive post-adamantium. Somehow it's creating new white blood cells and calcium to make up for no longer getting those things from his bones. So if someone canceled out the healing factor, he'd pretty much die on the spot.
This never happens when he DOES lose the healing power, for some reason.
This never happens when he DOES lose the healing power, for some reason.
Yeah, I guess I just always still interpreted that the bonding process was a bit more involved than just injecting him with it. He could have been cut open and the liquid metal/injectors still could've employed in a more "realistic" manner along with the involved surgery/vivisection. They could've cut him open and "sprayed on" the liquid adamantium like paint or something.
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