no, you won't be out because you can't eject, duhhh @King Daniel Beyond keep it internally consistent!Also if the captain's chair doesn't have an EJECT POD button, I'm out
The Big E bridge: What changes WOULD you like?
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I doubt it.
Might recycle the chairs, some consoles, but not the entire set
If it's not very VERY close to the original, which I'm sure it won't be, I'm going to be an upset fan, which I'm also sure I'm going to be.
Pessimism, it's good for old folks like me. It keeps us vigorous. Now get off my lawn and quit asking me stuff like this.
Pessimism, it's good for old folks like me. It keeps us vigorous. Now get off my lawn and quit asking me stuff like this.
I'm conflicted. I'd like it to be as faithful as possible, but I don't want it to pale in comparison to the Discovery bridge. In that sense, I understand the need to integrate the two styles. No matter what I think of them, the Discovery design choices have been made and we have to live in that framework.
At this point, I think I could best be satisfied if they put a lot of yellow and red into the displays and turned up the lights. Unfortunately, based on that Enterprise display pic, I'm guessing we'll get neither.
The screen in that picture is brighter then the surroundings, they may have had auto exposure on which would have darkened the rest.
DSC has had fully lit scenes, just look at the Discovery's bridge in the final scene of the finale.
Look at the mess hall in various episodes, nice and bright. (Well except during the party)
Tilly and Michael’s quarters are also nicely lit.
DSC has had fully lit scenes, just look at the Discovery's bridge in the final scene of the finale.
Look at the mess hall in various episodes, nice and bright. (Well except during the party)
Tilly and Michael’s quarters are also nicely lit.
Likely Too late, but should have gone to Ticonderoga and filmed on the phase II bridge.
I always thought he was drinking coffee, but that's got Ice in it, he's drinking soda!
SO, now we know it's canon that COKE and/or PEPSI is still around in the 23rd Century!!
They already have many of the original sounds in the background on the Discovery.
So it's not that big of a stretch to say your request will be fulfilled.
Yet another thing that The Orville stole from Star Trek.I always thought he was drinking coffee, but that's got Ice in it, he's drinking soda!
SO, now we know it's canon that COKE and/or PEPSI is still around in the 23rd Century!!
Interesting thread! @Jadeb, I think you make some excellent points in the OP, although I think you're copacetic with a slightly higher degree of "modernization" than I would like. For instance...
No on the bridge itself being bigger — I think the scale of the original is just right, big enough to move around easily, but small enough to move around quickly.
Regardless, it's a whole different generation of ship, so there's no reason anything on the Enterprise should necessarily resemble it. The closer to the original (aside from some minor updates to production values) the better, as far as I'm concerned.
(As an aside, it always bothered me how much of a step backward in ergonomics the TNG bridge seemed to have taken compared to the original, with so many crewmen required to stand while on duty, and the front/lower section only accessible by walking around that long railing...)
Yes on a bigger viewscreen (especially bigger than the version in "The Cage," which was even smaller than in TOS!). I think panoramic would be overdoing it, though; they should keep in mind optimum viewing angles, distances, and range of peripheral vision for actual human beings.
No on the bridge itself being bigger — I think the scale of the original is just right, big enough to move around easily, but small enough to move around quickly.
Agree completely. The original static screens were strictly a function of technical limits of the day, not of what Jefferies would have preferred. (Although it was prescient that the set used flat screens rather than CRTs!)
Not big on touchscreens, for reasons other posters have already discussed. The more tactile feedback the controls have, the better.
I'm agnostic on the chairs, so long as they look futuristic. (Except for the captain's chair — IMHO the closer to the original, the better, where that's concerned.)
Perhaps just a little, but not a lot. The design of the original is very elegant and efficient, IMHO. It also keeps those two important stations within view (and reach) of the captain any time he's seated and looking at the viewscreen.
Yup, no problem with that.
Significantly brighter. Lots brighter.
Absolutely. This may seem obvious, but a lot of latter-day Starfleet bridges have gone with conspicuously non-circular shapes.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, and yep. (Except that I'd prefer to turbolift door to be a simple rectangle.)
Also agree on all of these!
I have literally almost no visual impression of the Discovery bridge. If you were to ask me, I'd say it has conspicuously bulky/swoopy supports under the helm & nav stations, and much too much blue and gunmetal grey in the color scheme, and that's honestly about all I could tell you about it.
Regardless, it's a whole different generation of ship, so there's no reason anything on the Enterprise should necessarily resemble it. The closer to the original (aside from some minor updates to production values) the better, as far as I'm concerned.
Good resource. The key points any (re)designers should remember are simplicity, attractiveness, and ergonomics.
(As an aside, it always bothered me how much of a step backward in ergonomics the TNG bridge seemed to have taken compared to the original, with so many crewmen required to stand while on duty, and the front/lower section only accessible by walking around that long railing...)
I'm torn about this one. It's a nice bit of design (I especially like the captain's chair), but I think just a little too advanced looking for the era. Particular personal quibbles would include:So basically the fan bridge that popped up a few months ago? Would be more than happy with this but make it brighter overall.
PIKE BRIDGE2 by Jason Soto, on Flickr
- The outer ring is much too wide. It seems like a conspicuous waste of space. It's a walkway, not a runway.
- The viewscreen is also a bit too wide. Anything much more than 2:1 requires the viewer to pan his vision from side to side, as moviemakers figured out a long time ago. (And from the POV of a television audience, all the extra space makes it harder for the screen to be the visual focal point of a scene.)
- The redesign of the railings (particularly those wedge-shaped struts) is a little precious.
- The lighting is much too dim (as you mentioned yourself). The color palette is also awfully muted... although for authenticity's sake that was also true of Pike's bridge, much more than Kirk's.
- The individual workstations around the perimeter look nice at first glance, but their actual ergonomics would be pretty bad for any single crewman.
I'd be really surprised if they do that... if only because the Shenzou bridge is completely the wrong shape, narrower at the bottom, since (for whatever reason) it hangs beneath its saucer section. Changing that would mean rebuilding all the radial struts on the set, and if they're gonna take that kind of trouble they may as well just build a new set.
Could be iced coffeeI always thought he was drinking coffee, but that's got Ice in it, he's drinking soda!
SO, now we know it's canon that COKE and/or PEPSI is still around in the 23rd Century!!
This is very close to what I'd imagine the bridge is going to look like but brighter. Not even the Discovery's bridge is dark like that in the actual episodes. Since they use self-lighting on the sets it's going to look darker in general though. Noway around that. They're not going to light up the entire set. That would harm overall filming. I think this even more after the one panel we see in the latest Discovery video and what the hallways and doors look like on the Enterprise that we go to see. This matches up with Discovery and the various ships we've already seen visually while at the same time keeps the same shape of the bridge.So basically the fan bridge that popped up a few months ago? Would be more than happy with this but make it brighter overall.
Of the two the overall shape and layout are the most important things to keep and not change. It also looks similar to the movie era bridges as well. With those the defining factors are the overall layout that is kept consistant even though the details, colors, and screens change from film to film even though it's suppose to be the same ship from the last film we we're talking about the non-A and the A.
That window/viewscreen is a bit big though. I imagine it might be smaller though but who knows. Personally windows make sense if you can make sure they wo
The general layout should stay, captains chair in the middle, two people in the front (but not helm/nav, use one pilot and someone else, maybe even ops like Discovery does, a separate navigator is pointless), everyone else in a circle around them.
Everything else can be tossed, the design of the consoles and monitors, the colors, the size should all fit the new look. They should also add a second turbolift.
Everything else can be tossed, the design of the consoles and monitors, the colors, the size should all fit the new look. They should also add a second turbolift.
Couldn't disagree more. IF this really prime timeline then it should be an updated version of TOS bridge
Circular
pit in middle
Captains chair n helmsman navigator side by side in frt
1 turBo lift in proper place
Science, communications, engineering bridge stations in org spots
Red gray tones like TOS , just updated look. Otherwise stop calking it prime, call it a reboot n move on
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