Spoilers The Admonition doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

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  1. Guy Gardener

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    The director of the CIA can send the foreigners back to foreignland?
     
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    Apparently, that's a place right next door to Alienland.
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  3. Spock Must Diet!

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    The images were conveyed by Oh to Agnes, then from Agnes to Sutra. In the images were both things that only could have been supplied by Oh, such as the Admonition where Oh was a witness and Narissa was a participant. But there were also images of the transmitter, which the preview for next week shows being assembled. There are only two possible sources for the transmitter image - either it is encoded into the message (as stated in the episode) or Sutra visualizes it based on the encoded instructions and what she know the colony can produce. Either way you slice it, the images shown come from at least two sources, one of which is not the originator of the message. Therefore, at least some of the images are interpretations by the viewer.
     
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    I was referring to the things in your post that actually had to do with the show.
     
  5. Guy Gardener

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    Starfleet built a fleet worth of thousands of large ships, that can ship billions, maybe trillions of Romulans, which got destroyed, and they still had time to build more thousands of ships to aid in the evacuation, until they changed their mind about helping out.

    Sounds like years.

    The Picard Count down comic, is specifically (partly) about the Romulans not bothering to move an indigenous species of 20 million people, becuase they do not matter to the Romulans.
     
  6. Dukhat

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    Which just proves how stupid Oh's plan was.

    Non-canon comics mean nothing to me.
     
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    Or like Klingons thwarting assistance from the Federation to prevent the impending collapse of the Klingon empire. More bizarrely, humans and Klingons collaborating to prevent...humans and Klingons collaborating. Fear doesn't tend to lead to rational decisions.
     
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    Regadring the stupidity of Oh's plan, I don't think Oh was trying to be clever. She obviously felt getting rid of synths was more important than saving Romulans that needed the federation fleet. She made a choice. Also all the VIP Romulans (including's Oh's relatives) probably had already been removed.
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    If the Zhat Vash predate the division of the Vulcans and Romluans, then the Zhat Vash charter is also working towards the Good of Mother Vulcan.

    The destruction of the Romulan homeworld is not an extinction level event if the Vulcans are still in play.
     
  12. MrPointy

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    That's something I'm genuinely curious about. I think the Admonition is in what is now Romulan space. Do the Vulcans know about it? Oh is half-Vulcan, but is it because one of her parents was a Romulan spy on Vulcan?


    Are there Reman Zhat Vash?
     
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    That Reman's to be seen.
     
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  15. Thomas Elliot

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    I find it hard to believe this advanced race of AI believe that all organic species would want to kill off synthetic life. If anything, wouldn't some people or some species want to transmit their minds into synthetic bodies? I can imagine maybe one particular race or planet finding synthetic life "offensive" or somehow bad, but I think way more would want to use that to their benefit some how. The whole idea of a war between sentient robots and humans is so common in mainstream sci-fi, I wish PIC had done something new with it, if they were going to make Data and sentient AI such a prominent focus on this series.
    Maybe I'll just re-watch Ex-Machina.
     
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    I really like the Humans vs synth added to the mix in Picard, they have a lot to work with and I think they've done it well.

    It'd be cool if they activate the admonition and an even larger alliance of organics showed up to defend them against the synth alliance
     
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    It would also be sly for an anti-synth coalition to leave the Admonition so synths would naively contact them for help, only to be destroyed by them. But most likely it's what we heard as narrated to Sutra.
     
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    Rickrolled again.
     
  20. MrPointy

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    So wait. If you turn the beacon off halfway through calling them, does the RoboFederation think the summoner called them by mistake? Is it a wrong number to them?