Eric Roberts is my favorite Master and he said in an interview on the TV Movie DVD that he started wtahcing around 1973 and really enjoyed it. He compared playing the Master to being the kid on the playground with the biggest gun.
The 8th Doctor
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I watched it again yesterday. My opinion of it hasn't changed: I still love McGann, and still believe it's a shame this will probably be his only televised appearance (unless he shows up in the 50th anniversary special...but I'm not counting on it).
As an interesting aside, how would the future of Who have been altered had Fox gone ahead and picked up the show with McGann as the Doctor?
As an interesting aside, how would the future of Who have been altered had Fox gone ahead and picked up the show with McGann as the Doctor?
It would be pretty much aimed at adults than the current series, I would wager.
I remember now, he's the camp one.
To be honest, I don't think it would have changed much at all. Even if Fox DID pick it up, it probably wouldn't have lasted more than a season anyway with those ratings. And then we'd be right back where we started.
The only thing that might be different was if those writers chose to regenerate the Doctor, in which case RTD might have had to make Eccleston the 10th Doctor instead of the 9th.
It is possible. McGann did say in an interview several years back that he would love to return to do a multi-Doctor story. Assuming they do such a thing for the 50th anniversary, I'm sure he'd agree to appear.
I'm a big fan of the Big Finish audio dramas- they really make excellent use of the 8th Doctor and McGann gives it all his energy. I recently finished the second season and as far as I am concerned they are the 'real' adventures of the 8th Doctor during the hiatus.
Well that's the rub?
Are the Lucy Miller and Charlotte Pollard 8th Doctors parallel or sequential?
They were made by different people at the same time sorta, so is one set of stories less canon than the other? Y'know since both are completely noncanon (incanon?) compared to the TV show.
Although Graham Garden as the Monk was just top notch.
Of course 8 has started talking about his companions form the comic in Doctor Who Magazine as if they were real people, while he's knocking about with Mary Shelly.
Are the Lucy Miller and Charlotte Pollard 8th Doctors parallel or sequential?
They were made by different people at the same time sorta, so is one set of stories less canon than the other? Y'know since both are completely noncanon (incanon?) compared to the TV show.
Although Graham Garden as the Monk was just top notch.
Of course 8 has started talking about his companions form the comic in Doctor Who Magazine as if they were real people, while he's knocking about with Mary Shelly.
The audio dramas sound like they'd be a joke tie-in thing but they're really quality radio dramas. They've even aired them on BBC radio stations up through 2010 and possibly onwards but I'm not sure.
Sequential. The Lucie adventures follow the Charley ones. They weren't made at the same time, either; the Charley audios came out 2001-07, and the Lucie ones 2007-11. There was a slight overlap (the first season of Lucie audios came out before the last two Charley ones), but that's it.
Some of the fifth Doctor/Tegan/Nyssa/Turlough audios aired on whatever BBC7 is called now in 2011, I believe.
ahh my favorite Doctor 
nice to see more classic Who fans around
maybe, hopefully, in a class A miracle, we might see Paul McGann return to Who at somepoint in flashbacks to show the Time War a bit more... would be a real treat, maybe for the 50th anniversary it could be done
M
nice to see more classic Who fans around
maybe, hopefully, in a class A miracle, we might see Paul McGann return to Who at somepoint in flashbacks to show the Time War a bit more... would be a real treat, maybe for the 50th anniversary it could be done
M
Indeed. They weren't made by different people either. Both are Big Finish productions.
The rub is where the audios fit in to the BBC EDA novel range, if at all. A potential answer is given in Zagreus (parallel realities).
ahh my favorite Doctor
nice to see more classic Who fans around
maybe, hopefully, in a class A miracle, we might see Paul McGann return to Who at somepoint in flashbacks to show the Time War a bit more... would be a real treat, maybe for the 50th anniversary it could be done
M
If you ask me-and you haven't-the best oppurtunity (other than a 50th anniversary special) for Time War 8th Doctor flashbacks would have been in the End of Time, Part Two.
ugh... end of time was a travesty... the entire episode was just a gigantic 'fan-wank' to Russell T Davies...
such a letdown for Tennant's last episode, he deserved so much more than a badly written episode with namedropping characters, horrendous plot and pathetic regeneration scene...
my opinion anyway
M
such a letdown for Tennant's last episode, he deserved so much more than a badly written episode with namedropping characters, horrendous plot and pathetic regeneration scene...
my opinion anyway
M
Oh I agree, it was a bit of a letdown for sure, it hasd so much potential! They took the Master and firther ruined him as a dangerous character. And the Time Lords were utterly wasted. Yes, that is how I feel.
Rassilon was a joke...
how they attempted to bring him back as a 'name drop' for old fans... blugh... pathetic... the Doctor has visited Rassilon's tomb several times in the past... 5 times at once actually (The Five Doctor's)... and while he is said to know the secret to immortality, he lies in his tomb waiting for a 'worthy Time Lord'... not a chance to come in, take over and bitch slap reality with his pimp glove of omega... or whatever the f**k that was supposed to be...
Rassilon was a great and respected time lord... he had an era of time named after him for gods sake... he wasn't a dictator or war lord...
really annoyed me...
M
how they attempted to bring him back as a 'name drop' for old fans... blugh... pathetic... the Doctor has visited Rassilon's tomb several times in the past... 5 times at once actually (The Five Doctor's)... and while he is said to know the secret to immortality, he lies in his tomb waiting for a 'worthy Time Lord'... not a chance to come in, take over and bitch slap reality with his pimp glove of omega... or whatever the f**k that was supposed to be...
Rassilon was a great and respected time lord... he had an era of time named after him for gods sake... he wasn't a dictator or war lord...
really annoyed me...
M
was that the Hand of Omega? I wasn't sure! I did hear a rumor that RTD wanted the original Rassilon (ala The Five Doctors) but the actor had passed away. Best that he couldnt gethim for the job or as its bad enough with Dalton in the role.
I also hate how the Time Lords were set up in series 1-4 as being dead, destroyed and gone only to have the special come along adn reveal they were just in a time loop or whatever that was keeping them locked away from the rest of the universe! Ugh!
I also hate how the Time Lords were set up in series 1-4 as being dead, destroyed and gone only to have the special come along adn reveal they were just in a time loop or whatever that was keeping them locked away from the rest of the universe! Ugh!
4 times. Tom Baker was either stuck in limbo at the time or was made of wax, depending on who you ask
lol, either way, 4 or 5 times... Rassilon was a joke...
they should have used an actual credible threat to bring back Gallifrey, then wrote in the Gallifrey audio series as Canon and brought in High President Romana (Lalla Ward)... then they could have had a good regeneration scene for her, and actually had another good Time Lord as 11's on / off again companion...
Would have much rather preferred that than watching the 20 minute fanwank at the end of the episode where a dying 10 goes through all his old companions with teary eyes and leaking radiation all over the time stream...
M
they should have used an actual credible threat to bring back Gallifrey, then wrote in the Gallifrey audio series as Canon and brought in High President Romana (Lalla Ward)... then they could have had a good regeneration scene for her, and actually had another good Time Lord as 11's on / off again companion...
Would have much rather preferred that than watching the 20 minute fanwank at the end of the episode where a dying 10 goes through all his old companions with teary eyes and leaking radiation all over the time stream...
M
The events leading up to the actual regeneration was largely self-indulgent and took valuable time away from a better finale. Ten was leaking radiation oh how I love that comment M! I think him going all the way back to see Rose was a mistakem, they just had her com back the series before only for the Doctor to send her back to pete's World, so why is he still longing for this 19-year-old shopgirl? A full series with the 8th Doctor would surely never have gone this route.
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