The 8th Doctor

[davejames]

So, what other adventures did the 8th Doctor have aside from the movie and the audio plays? I think I heard something about novels and comics about him? Anyone read those?

Not sure, but I think he's supposed to have a new, harder-edged costume with a shorter haircut by now.

Which is too bad. I realize he was never happy with the Victorian-age look, but to me that was part of what made his Doctor so cool and memorable. He was the "romantic adventurer."

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ I suppose his current look is perhaps meant to represent a stepping-stone towards the look of the Ninth Doctor. But I agree, I loved his look in the movie.

 

[Stevil2001]

So, what other adventures did the 8th Doctor have aside from the movie and the audio plays? I think I heard something about novels and comics about him? Anyone read those?

Not sure, but I think he's supposed to have a new, harder-edged costume with a shorter haircut by now.

Which is too bad. I realize he was never happy with the Victorian-age look, but to me that was part of what made his Doctor so cool and memorable. He was the "romantic adventurer."

^ I suppose his current look is perhaps meant to represent a stepping-stone towards the look of the Ninth Doctor. But I agree, I loved his look in the movie.

The eighth Doctor's look is the same as it ever was in the audio dramas.

 

[davejames]

http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/10/...new-costume-for-eighth-incarnation-of-do.html

 

[Worf2DS9]

^ Wasn't it later revealed that this was not, in fact, an official costume change for Eight? I seem to remember reading something to that effect a while after that article came out a year or so ago.

 

[The Wormhole]

Maybe the 9th Doctor had wanted to come back straight away but accidentally ended up on the Titanic and had lots of other adventures as he tried to get back to Rose one more time.

There's a really nice moment in the series where Rose mentions getting a bicycle for Christmas as a child and the 9th Doctor saying something to the effect that it was actually him that gave her that. So i'm sure the 9th Doctor had all sorts of adventures including the 50th anniversary special

Actually, this post got me thinking, since those Night shorts in the S6 DVDs revealed the Doctor continues to go on adventures after Amy and Rory go to bed, it's possible he did that with every companions. So, visiting the Titanic, checking out the JFK assassination, giving child Rose a bike for Christmas, the 50th anniversary special could all have been done while Rose was sleeping.

Is that worth a no-prize?

 

[Kai "the spy"]

http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/10/...new-costume-for-eighth-incarnation-of-do.html

A sonic screwdriver with a wooden handle? Oh, subtle humor.

 

[Stevil2001]

http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/10/...new-costume-for-eighth-incarnation-of-do.html

^ Wasn't it later revealed that this was not, in fact, an official costume change for Eight? I seem to remember reading something to that effect a while after that article came out a year or so ago.

It wasn't just "later" revealed; at the convention where it was unveiled, McGann specifically said it was unofficial. On the covers for the audio dramas (the only place where a costume matters on audio), the Doctor continues to wear a cravat and waistcoat.

 

[Saul]

^ Why did they want to see young Rose?

Because we want to! Because we want to!

Groan! Why did you remind me of that!

Maybe the 9th Doctor had wanted to come back straight away but accidentally ended up on the Titanic and had lots of other adventures as he tried to get back to Rose one more time.

There's a really nice moment in the series where Rose mentions getting a bicycle for Christmas as a child and the 9th Doctor saying something to the effect that it was actually him that gave her that. So i'm sure the 9th Doctor had all sorts of adventures including the 50th anniversary special

Actually, this post got me thinking, since those Night shorts in the S6 DVDs revealed the Doctor continues to go on adventures after Amy and Rory go to bed, it's possible he did that with every companions. So, visiting the Titanic, checking out the JFK assassination, giving child Rose a bike for Christmas, the 50th anniversary special could all have been done while Rose was sleeping.

Is that worth a no-prize?

Excellent point. That's one way the Moff might do it.

 

[davejames]

It wasn't just "later" revealed; at the convention where it was unveiled, McGann specifically said it was unofficial. On the covers for the audio dramas (the only place where a costume matters on audio), the Doctor continues to wear a cravat and waistcoat.

Alright, nice to know. I actually didn't think it was a bad look, but it's just SO radically different from his previous one that it might as well have been a different character.

It's a far cry from the subtle costume changes the 4th Doctor made, that's for sure.

 

[Valin]

I swear 9,10 and 11 have some sort of fascination with visiting young Rose

9-Bicycle
10-January 1st 2005
11- "I can go back and help Rose Tyler with her homework"

Then Captain Jack watched her grow up.

"The Time Travelling Stalkers' Handbook", by "The Doctor" with Capt. Jack Harkness.

 

[Christopher]

I swear 9,10 and 11 have some sort of fascination with visiting young Rose

9-Bicycle
10-January 1st 2005
11- "I can go back and help Rose Tyler with her homework"

Then Captain Jack watched her grow up.

Well, first off, Eleven only mentioned that in passing alongside mentioning other old friends he could go and visit.

As for Nine and Ten, it makes sense that they'd feel a special attachment to Rose. She was apparently the first companion the Doctor had after the Time War, his friend at the most vulnerable point in his life, so it's plausible that he would've felt a special connection to her. (Eleven's feelings for Amy might be similar, since he met her soon after the similarly traumatic events of "The End of Time.") As for Jack, it's understandable because Rose was the one who made him immortal in the first place. I guess he didn't know that yet when he watched her growing up, but he may have sensed a connection. At the very least, he knew that she was part of the events that surrounded his first death and resurrection, and that she was connected to the Doctor, the person Jack most wanted to find and ask about why he was immortal.

 

[sidious618]

I loved the 8th Doctor. I thought his BBC books were a lot of fun, too, provided you knew which ones to bypass.

 

[Worf2DS9]

Eight is one of my faves as well. I've also really enjoyed his Big Finish audios too, though it's been about a year since I last downloaded one. He also had one of the coolest TARDIS interiors.

 

[Iamnotspock]

plus in the movie why did the regeneration of the doctor take so long when it normally happens quickly.

"I was dead too long this time. The anaesthetic almost destroyed the regenerative process."

 

[Anwar]

I thought the regeneration from McCoy to McGann was one of the better representations of what a "regeneration" should be. Instead of just fading from one guy to another, or being enveloped in energy, we see the body changing and here the bones cracking and altering the facial features/body structure.

Kind of disgusting, but it fits the idea quite well.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, the movie's regeneration sequence was pretty effective. It was the first time a regeneration was done with the budget available to do something more detailed than just a video effect.

Although come to think of it, I think the only regeneration that was "just fading from one guy to another" was the third, from Pertwee to Baker. Let's see...

1: Close-up of Hartnell's face whites out in blinding light -- fades to close-up of Troughton's face.

2: Troughton tumbles into a vortex -- change to Pertween unseen

3: Simple dissolve from Pertwee to T. Baker

4: T. Baker and "Watcher" merge in video "pucker" effect -- then series of fades from indistinct Watcher face to Davison in partial Watcher makeup to Davison

5: Davison's face buried in elaborate swirling video effect -- fades to reveal C. Baker

6: McCoy in "Baker" wig, face obscured by swirling video effect -- fades to reveal McCoy

So the majority of regenerations have entailed some light and energy, and even the McCoy/McGann regeneration had flashes of lightning coming from the body. So at least the modern effect has precedent -- although I still think it's silly that the past two regenerations have been done standing up.

It's interesting... I used to think the "simple fade" regeneration approach was pretty much the norm until I actually enumerated them all. I guess it's because my first DW episode was "Robot," so the Pertwee-to-Baker regeneration was the first one -- indeed, the first moment of the entire series -- that I ever saw.

 

[davejames]

I thought the regeneration from McCoy to McGann was one of the better representations of what a "regeneration" should be. Instead of just fading from one guy to another, or being enveloped in energy, we see the body changing and here the bones cracking and altering the facial features/body structure.

Kind of disgusting, but it fits the idea quite well.

Yeah I agree it was probably the most "realistic" regeneration we'll ever see. And it was also pretty powerful and dramatic.

Although I can see why they went with something a bit... different for the new show. You don't want kids' last image of their beloved Doctor to be him writhing on the ground and convulsing, and his face contorting into all kinds of grotesque shapes before he dies. Lol

 

[Iamnotspock]

I thought the regeneration from McCoy to McGann was one of the better representations of what a "regeneration" should be. Instead of just fading from one guy to another, or being enveloped in energy, we see the body changing and here the bones cracking and altering the facial features/body structure.

Kind of disgusting, but it fits the idea quite well.

I love how it cuts from McCoy gurning with gusto to McGann doing it a bit half-heartedly and looking a little uncomfortable.

 

[CaptainMatt]

The McGann movie is a highlight in my collection of Dr Who, and the only real reason why RTD did not ask McGann back has to be because he wanted his own Doctor to start out from the gate and not feature a regeneration at the start or have an handover Doctor in his first series. Thats what I believe at any rate, take it or leave it.